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    From yesterday's protest:

    However, anglers say these conditions will do little to protect the chinook populations they were intended for, and harm communities that rely on the sport fishing industry. The $1.1 billion industry supports over 9,000 jobs.

    According to organizers, the DFO's own DNA sampling of chinook salmon caught last year shows that recreational fishermen reeled in less than one per cent of vulnerable chinook stocks.

    "Sport fishermen are the first ones that want to protect stocks of concern because we want to see them in future years," said Jason Assonities, a local fishing guide.

    "We have the data that says we're not really catching them in this fishery, so why are we getting closed down when we're not catching these stocks of concern?" Assonities added.

    "For us, it's pretty clear this is all optical, and it's all political."


    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...119270?cmp=rss

    Every single time Pierre's Idiot Child can get in front of a microphone he mumbles repeatedly about Jobs Jobs Jobs.
    I guess they simply don't count if they aren't in Quebec, eh?

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    Interestingly enough, DFO's own website, which had both the in-river FN Chinook fisheries listed that they let (one week plus extensions on The Most Endangered run of Chinook in the Fraser), has been modified such that they have now been removed? I have sent them a request for clarification, and will see if one of the other Ladz captured a screen shot (I do believe so) which I will post once located. Appears to be even more shenanigans occurring...

    And of course the Minister continues his blatant lies over this issue:

    ""As Minister of Fisheries and Oceans, Canadians expect me to make my decisions based on science and evidence, and ensure these endangered wild chinook stocks survive," stated Wilkinson. "The restrictions were mindful of what we have heard from recreational and commercial fisheries stakeholders."

    https://www.nsnews.com/news/angered-...ver-1.23809422

    He simply could not have strayed any further from the truth in that comment.

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    Anyone that wants to understand how much closed door planning happens between the DFO and FRAFS (Fraser River Aboriginal Fisheries Secretariat) have a read. Warning, barf bag may be required...

    https://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...019-pdf.45275/

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    Another poster, on another Forum, who gets some of the unintentional ramifications:

    "As Coastal Communities all up and down BC and especially on Vancouver Island get hammered in order to appease the lower Fraser First Nations or more correctly, a few bad actors, there is a growing realization that the Financial interests of a great many First Nations in the smaller coastal communities are also being damaged and in some cases severely. Many of their interests are directly connected to the Public Fishery and tourism. In my view they are increasingly becoming concerned about this and as the full impact of how this will harm there interests sinks in I think it will get more interesting for the Federal Liberals. In effect by completely capitulating to the Lower Fraser First Nations in an unbalanced and misguided failing attempt at reconciliation, the Federal Liberals not only turned their back not just on BC's coastal communities but also on the many coastal First Nations who are apart of those communities."

    Yep.
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    never thought of it that way but its true..... I had a lot of FN Friends who worked in the industry,,,,,

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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Justin wanted a photo op for the next election ,and this was a cheap way to get his smiling face in the news...gotta choke when he goes on about ‘jobs,jobs jobs’...tell that to the guides, tackle companies, sporting goods stores,tourist destinations and marinas...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronNoggin View Post
    Anyone that wants to understand how much closed door planning happens between the DFO and FRAFS (Fraser River Aboriginal Fisheries Secretariat) have a read. Warning, barf bag may be required...

    https://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...019-pdf.45275/
    It was noted that many could not access that link. Perhaps one must be a signed in member to view?

    Anyway, here's the letter again for those with strong stomachs:

    http://frafs.ca/sites/default/files2...LN-in8Klri6OzU

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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Yup, that is hard to stomach. The sense of entitlement that has been granted is sickening. All sectors of resource extraction are in deep trouble under our current regime (fed and prov). I was hoping to wet a line for the first time in the ocean this year but am now highly skeptical I will have the opportunity.

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    Despite the Minister's whining that this was all about getting the FN's to stop Fraser FN fishing until July 15 (when BTW, some of the more threatened runs will be in the river & ripe for exploitation) he has let no less than SEVEN openings for targeting on threatened / endangered Chinook runs since mid April.

    https://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/...nTimes-eng.pdf

    https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/f...s_Previous.pdf

    Of course there is zero accountability regarding the numbers those openings removed and from which endangered stock.

    But hey, at least we got those damn sporties and commercial guys off the water, even if they don't catch the runs in question to any measurable degree.

    Canadian Government HYPOCRISY at it's finest...

    And folks wonder why we have difficulty believing anything they have to say...

    Sadly - Nog
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    From reading your link it looks like DFO had data and made recomendations as long as 10 years ago that changes had to be made. Looks like they were ignored.
    So if DFO can't even get action from above, who can

    Things look ripe for a class action lawsuit
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