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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Quote Originally Posted by charlie_horse View Post
    I'm jot going to pretend to know the science however on the topic of predators, which I'm well aware of the seal/sea lions issue one I've heard discussed quite a bit but never mentioned online is the bull trout populations.

    I'm not sure if there is any real data to support that they do impact populations, but the squamish river fisheries blow for salmon these days and it's not hard to catch a bully from what I've seen.
    You can't keep Bullies or Dollies up here, and on most days, you are hard pressed to NOT catch them.
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Quote Originally Posted by 835 View Post
    New thought of the day........ something I eluded to earlier.....

    hatchery heads have been sent to DFO forever.... Sooke has a good deal of hatchery fish that get caught..... almost 100% come from the good old USA.... if they are trying to save the Fraser Chinook... these are not those fish.
    and correct me if I'm wrong, but hatcheries have all but stopped clipping fish in most systems.... Why cant places like this keep hatchery fish? Fish they know are not from this system... or country
    Hatcheries are shutting down or have already been shut down in this corner of the province. Is the Federal government actually TRYING to destroy the fishery?
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Let us not forget that it is way cheaper for the government to shut down all fishing around the coast than to have people out patrolling smaller areas, or maintaining hatcheries.
    "Civilization ends at the waterline. Beyond that, we all enter the food chain, and not always right at the top."

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    “That rifle on the wall of the labourer’s cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”

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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Yep, we have said that all along...... Cheap to Close a fishery....

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    Arrow Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Any lawsuits yet?

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    Arrow Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Quote Originally Posted by Spy View Post
    Any lawsuits yet?
    Not yet...
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    "United we stand...divided we fall". The Federal Government has done a great job of dividing the fishing community. Why is it some can fish and others can't? If they feel that there needs to be closure, then close it for all. Stop playing politics with our resources. There have been no definite answers and a lot of questions. Get rid of the present government and make it clear to the new that things must change.

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    Thumbs down Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    FORTY-ONE FN in-river Openings to date on the most threatened runs of Chinook the Fraser has since Wilkinson imposed the restrictions.

    http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/f...nTimes-eng.htm

    https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/f..._Previous.html

    In addition to an ongoing full blown FN Troll Fishery (with no numbers cap) in Area G waters that the latter were forced off of due to "conservation concerns".

    https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/f...=221391&ID=all

    And on top of that, the letter the Minister sent around today no longer even attempts to disguise the re-allocation aspect:

    “In addition, new restrictions in commercial and recreational fisheries are intended to support increased availability of not at risk Summer 41 Chinook for First Nations fisheries harvest opportunities during August and September.”

    https://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...nal-pdf.45727/

    Rather obvious to anyone with eyes this is a complete travesty.

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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Quote Originally Posted by IronNoggin View Post
    FORTY-ONE FN in-river Openings to date on the most threatened runs of Chinook the Fraser has since Wilkinson imposed the restrictions.

    http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/f...nTimes-eng.htm

    https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/f..._Previous.html

    In addition to an ongoing full blown FN Troll Fishery (with no numbers cap) in Area G waters that the latter were forced off of due to "conservation concerns".

    https://www-ops2.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/f...=221391&ID=all

    And on top of that, the letter the Minister sent around today no longer even attempts to disguise the re-allocation aspect:

    “In addition, new restrictions in commercial and recreational fisheries are intended to support increased availability of not at risk Summer 41 Chinook for First Nations fisheries harvest opportunities during August and September.”

    https://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum...nal-pdf.45727/

    Rather obvious to anyone with eyes this is a complete travesty.

    Nog
    They know most fishermen are white concervitive men they are blatantly given us then shaft I’m saying go out and fish I think I might jus
    t go rent a boat and go catch some salmon **** the gov this is not a democracy and is wrong I say these closures are unconstitutional you can’t favour some people over others

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