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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Quote Originally Posted by curly top View Post
    IMHO
    First Nations should be able to hunt and fish for their own food .
    Using traditional methods or at least regulated. Not nets across rivers exterminating rivers of fish for the future No Black Market BS.

    Be Accountable and policed like everyone else.

    As said by many there are abusers of all races........no matter who you are. These abusers should face and suffer the same consequences when out side the Law. Of which the Law should be the same cor every one.

    This comes down to ACCOUNTABILITY.......of which in many cases the over netting the over harvest the ZERO CONSEQUENCES for your actions.......with no accountability there can not be SUSTAINABILTY period.

    Stop the insanity! Or there will be no future for our Wild Salmon period. Pathetic its come to this. Shame on Governments past and present........shame on courts past and present. They have created this Shite Storm .....good luck fixing it.

    Until its 1 Law for All racism will continue. Abuse of our forests rivers and oceans will continue.
    Please will a Government grow some balls for a change and make us ALL EQUAL. Stop the Racism the Governments have created.

    I feel for those loosing their pay checks, jobs, boats, homes etc.
    Im lucky and only lost what was held dear to my soul. Part of me.

    Sold my boat this week . Eff it! Why keep paying more to this effed up Liberal Gong Show.
    No more!
    Politics 101 divide and conquer. This is why special interest groups get different classifications,

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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Quote Originally Posted by ratherbefishin View Post
    There had been a lot of allegations about illegal FN net fishing ( which the DFO denied at a recent meeting in Victoria )and sales along the highway.What needs to be done,and should be done is documenting any illegal activity,and posting it here as well as forwarding it to DFO,your local MP ,and the Conservative MP.Call the local TV station and get it in the media .Then we have something to work with.
    That is exactly what needs to be done! Better yet photos with time, date and exact location should be posted onto something like facebook so that they can be shared extensively with those in the general community. Posting on a sight like this is merely "preaching to the choir" while sharing on facebook will point out the issue to those that don't understand there is a problem. However the quickest way to lose public support will be to appear racially motivated as apposed to just pointing out what is happening.

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    Arrow Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Quote Originally Posted by ratherbefishin View Post
    ...What needs to be done,and should be done is documenting any illegal activity,and posting it here as well as forwarding it to DFO,your local MP ,and the Conservative MP.Call the local TV station and get it in the media .Then we have something to work with.
    Something of this exact nature is being set up on the Sportfishing BC Forum. I will post details once they are up.

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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Verifiable documentation is the only thing that might work....quite frankly,I’m getting tired of seeing Justin’s smiling face posing for every photo op he can get and prattling on about ah,Climate change ah...(no,we don t need another tax to ‘make us aware’) speaking of which how much carbon was put into the atmosphere on his surfing junket in Tofino last weekend?
    I just booked 3 days charter trips( that is,if there are any guys still chartering ) off Sooke in September...hopefuly I can find 6 Chinook for my freezer and that will be my salmon fishing for the year,I guess.A crust of bread is better than none I guess..
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    SFI Update:

    CHINOOK RESTRICTIONS IMPACT SURVEY

    As all are aware, on April 16 the DFO announced new management measures—non-retention fishing restrictions to address conservation concerns for particular runs of Fraser River Chinook. The broad application of those measures and an unwillingness to consider options that would allow opportunity for the public fishery while not impacting the stocks of concern is causing unnecessary and significant damage to BC's reputation and, more importantly and critically, to the economies of small coastal communities and small businesses around the bottom end of Vancouver Island and the entire length of Juan de Fuca and Georgia Straits in particular.

    Appreciating the serious impacts and to better characterize, understand and convey what the restrictions mean to British Columbians, the
    BC Chamber of Commerce is reaching out to all sectors who are affected by this decision with a quick six question survey. If your business is impacted by the restrictions placed on Chinook salmon, please take a few moments to complete the BC Chamber of Commerce - Chinook Restrictions Impact Survey.
    SOUTHERN RESIDENT KILLER WHALE - SRKW FEEDBACK NEEDED BY MAY 3rd

    As many will recall, measures to help protect SRKW were to be announced by Ministers Wilkinson and McKenna on time with the approximate return of the whales to our waters. This means that a first round of measures are in the process of development and will soon be implemented. Over the past few months, DFO and Transport Canada led a number of Technical Working Groups. The SFI and SFAB representatives were invited to participate. And, as some will have noted or perhaps even attended, there were three public consultation sessions, in Victoria, Sooke and in Richmond. There is also an opportunity now and until May 3rd to provide feedback on two proposals that have been developed as a result of the TWG sessions and public consultation.
    The government has consolidated feedback from the Technical Working groups and from scientific publications and produced a consultation paper that outlines two approaches. Your feedback and response to these proposals is needed. Express your support for Option A as it proposes much less impact on recreational fishing and boating activities than Option B.
    The consultation process closes this Friday, May 3rd and the measures will be implemented shortly after that. The consultation paper is here and provide comments in support of Option A to DFO.SRKW-ERS.MPO@dfo-mpo.gc.ca
    For more information and details about SRKW please visit both SRKW.org or the SFI SRKW page.
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    Subject: FN0395-COMMERCIAL, RECREATIONAL and ABORIGINAL - Salmon - Fraser Chinook 2019 Management Measures - Vancouver Island, Fraser Interior and North Coast, and Coast-wide Recreational Annual Aggregates - Amendment to FN0377
    Category(s): ABORIGINAL - General Information,ABORIGINAL - Salmon: Economic Opportunities,COMMERCIAL - General Information,COMMERCIAL - Salmon: Troll,RECREATIONAL - General Information,RECREATIONAL - Salmon



    Fishery Notice - Fisheries and Oceans Canada Subject: FN0395-COMMERCIAL, RECREATIONAL and ABORIGINAL - Salmon - Fraser Chinook 2019 Management Measures - Vancouver Island, Fraser Interior and North Coast, and Coast-wide Recreational Annual Aggregates - Amendment to FN0377 This Fishery Notice supersedes FN0377. The correct notice is as follows: This notice provides the Fraser Chinook management measures for the 2019 fishing season. Chinook Conservation Measures:To address Fraser River Chinook conservation concerns, DFO is implementing precautionary reductions to support conservation and promote recovery of at risk Chinook. New management measures for Fraser Chinook are outlined below. --------------------------------------------------------------------------Northern Commercial Fisheries--------------------------------------------------------------------------Area F Troll – Chinook non-retention until August 20, 2019. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Southern BC Commercial Fisheries---------------------------------------------------------------------------Area G Troll: Delayed start for AABM Chinook until August 1, 2019. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Southern BC Recreational Fisheries:---------------------------------------------------------------------------WCVI Subareas 20-1 and 20-2, and offshore Area 121, as well as Areas 123 to 127 seaward of a 1 nm Boundary Line. 00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019, Chinook non-retention; 00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2019, 2 Chinook per day The Boundary Line is approximately 1 nm seaward of the surfline. For the full definition of the Boundary Line, please see the bottom of this fisheries notice. Chinook daily limits remain at 2 per day shoreward of this Boundary Line. Queen Charlotte and Johnstone Straits (Subareas 12-1 to 12-13, 12-15 to 12-4: 00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019, Chinook non-retention; 00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019, 1 Chinook per day;00:01 hours August 30 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2 Chinook per day. Strait of Georgia – North - Areas 13 to 17, Area 28 and Subareas 29-1 and 29-2: 00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 14, 2019, Chinook non-retention; 00:01 hours July 15 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019, 1 Chinook/day;00:01 hours August 30 to December 31, 2019, 2 Chinook/day. Strait of Georgia – South and Juan de Fuca - Areas 18, 19 and Subareas 20-3 to 20-7, 29-3 to 29-5 and 29-8,:00:01 hours April 19 to 23:59 hours July 31, 2019, Chinook non-retention; 00:01 hours August 1 to 23:59 hours August 29, 2019, 1 Chinook per day;00:01 hours August 30 to 23:59 hours December 31, 2019, 2 Chinook per day. Fraser River mouth, tidal and non-tidal waters – Subareas 29-6, 29-7, 29-9 to 29-17 and those waters of the Fraser River upstream from the Highway Bridge at Mission, BC to the Alexandria Bridge:January 1 to August 23, No fishing for salmon. August 23 to December 31, Chinook non-retention. After August 23, dependent on in-season information fisheries may be announced targeting other species. These will also be subject to any measures required for other stocks of concern such as Interior Fraser Coho or Steelhead salmon. Freshwater Regions 3, 5, 7 and 8:Remain closed to fishing for salmon until further notice.Fishing opportunities for other salmon stocks or species may be provided subject to in-season information and measures required for stocks of concern such as Interior Fraser Coho or Steelhead salmon. For clarity, Chinook retention is permitted in Areas 11, 21 to 27, 111, Subarea 12-14, and those portions of Areas 123 to 127 shoreward of a line 1 nautical mile seaward of the surfline. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Coast-wide Recreational Fisheries:---------------------------------------------------------------------------For the recreational fishery, the annual aggregate limit for Chinook salmon is ten (10) coast-wide in all tidal waters. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Southern BC Food, Social and Ceremonial Fisheries:---------------------------------------------------------------------------In Southern BC marine waters beginning 00:01 hours April 19 until 23:59 hours July 14, 2019 Chinook non-retention will be in effect in the following Areas: Subareas 12-1 to 12-13 and 12-15 to 12-48; Areas 13 to 20, 28, 29-1 to 29-10 and 121; and those portions of Areas 123 to 127 offshore from a 1 nautical mile (Boundary Line) seaward of the surfline. For the full definition of the Boundary Line, please see the bottom of this fisheries notice. For clarity, Chinook retention is permitted in Areas 11, 21 to 27, 111, Subarea 12-14, and those portions of Areas 123 to 127 shoreward of a line 1 nautical mile seaward of the surfline. Fraser River downstream of the Thompson River: Chinook non-retention to July 14; very limited priority access for ceremonial purposes will be considered prior to July 14.Further information on specific management actions will be communicated by separate Fishery Notices. You can view or subscribe to fisheries notices at: http://notices.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fns-sap/index-eng.cfm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Definition: Boundary Line for Areas 123 to 127--------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Boundary Line is approximately 1nm seaward of the surfline and is defined as follows: A line that begins at Pacheena Point lighthouse at 48 degrees 43.327’ N 125 degrees 05.855’ Wthen to 48 degrees 42.456’ N 125 degrees 06.583’ W seaward of Pachena Point,then to 48 degrees 46.420’ N 125 degrees 13.997’ W seaward of Cape Beale,then to 48 degrees 54.572’ N 125 degrees 33.622’ W seaward of Amphitrite Point,then to 49 degrees 05.100’ N 125 degrees 54.646’ W seaward of Cox Point,then to 49 degrees 10.280’ N 126 degrees 04.790’ W seaward of Blunden Island,then to 49 degrees 16.472’ N 126 degrees 15.140’ W seaward of Rafael Point,then to 49 degrees 20.008’ N 126 degrees 17.188’ W seaward of Sydney Inlet,then to 49 degrees 23.807’ N 126 degrees 24.483’ W seaward of Hesquiat Point,then to 49 degrees 21.620’ N 126 degrees 28.478’ W seaward of Matlahaw Point,then to 49 degrees 22.113’ N 126 degrees 33.508’ W seaward of Estevan Point, then to 49 degrees 23.869’ N 126 degrees 35.333’ W seaward of Homais Cove,then to 49 degrees 27.766’ N 126 degrees 35.971’ W seaward of Split Cape,then to 49 degrees 31.494’ N 126 degrees 35.669’ W seaward of Escalante Point,then to 49 degrees 34.042’ N 126 degrees 41.611’ W seaward of Maquinna Point,then to 49 degrees 36.254’ N 126 degrees 50.538’ W seaward of Bajo Point,then to 49 degrees 39.892’ N 126 degrees 55.125’ W seaward of Skuna Bay,then to 49 degrees 44.400’ N 127 degrees 00.289’ W seaward of Ferrer Point,then to 49 degrees 50.767’ N 127 degrees 10.151’ W seaward of Tatchu Point,then to 49 degrees 59.142’ N 127 degrees 28.125’ W seaward of Lookout Island,then to 50 degrees 06.948’ N 127 degrees 41.617’ W seaward of Jackobson Point,then to 50 degrees 03.599’ N 127 degrees 47.722’ W seaward of Clerke Point,then to 50 degrees 05.868’ N 127 degrees 57.906’ W seaward of Solander Island,then to 50 degrees 19.284’ N 128 degrees 00.130’ W seaward of Lawn Point,then to 50 degrees 31.501’ N 128 degrees 14.238’ W seaward of Topknot Point,then to 50 degrees 35.683’ N 128 degrees 19.249’ W seaward of Cape Palmerston,then to 50 degrees 39.280’ N 128 degrees 23.459’ W seaward of Winifred Island,then to 50 degrees 41.116’ N 128 degrees 24.166’ W seaward of Cape Russell,then to 50 degrees 44.137’ N 128 degrees 26.559’ W seaward of Strange Rock,then to 50 degrees 47.926’ N 128 degrees 27.363’ W seaward of Cape Scott,then to Frederiksen Point. FOR MORE INFORMATION: Contact your local DFO officehttp://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/contact/reg...fique-eng.html
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    We know the recreational Chinook fishery is closed until August ,with one retention limit and September two.But what about coho and sockeye?

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    Read the release!!!!! I could give 2 shits about coho this is about springs and certain areas are open NOW and 2 A DAY!!!
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    Re: Draconian Fisheries Closures

    so I sent this yesterday. I was not able to go to the ralley but I wanted to support it Jonathan.Wilkinson@parl.gc.ca

    Good day
    My name is Dru i live in Victoria.
    I am a conservationist, sport fisher, ex sport guide and ex commercial fisher.
    I support the protest entirely.
    I beg you to stop using politics to make decisions.. you could support pinniped control but im sure you fear kick back on that. Controling pinipeds, especially in the Fraser itself is one easy way to help this specific system. Hatchery input is another that has less political troubles.. clip the fins let us return the heads and you will know escapement.
    Please use the data you already have to make decisions and keep collecting more...
    Stop this nonsense you have started..
    Please

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    We are all stewards of the land, this planet earth and therefore we are all First Nations responsible for its care, its species, and each other.
    ———————unless of course if you came from some other planet then you’re exempt!

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