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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    Castanet news
    "The B.C. government has added a month to its consultations on caribou conservation because of community concerns over logging, backcountry access and talks with First Nations.

    This is clearly an issue that has enraged some people and has inflamed passions," said Premier John Horgan in Dawson Creek, in the heart of caribou country."

    no shite Sherlock
    Never say whoa in the middle of a mud hole

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    I'm going to try and make it to the one in Enderby wednesday.

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    Quote Originally Posted by boxhitch View Post
    Revelstoke Monday
    Nakusp Wednesday
    Enderby Thursday
    there were errors in previous announcements causing confusion

    Wednesday is a listed Caribou engagement meeting in Nakusp
    Enderby meeting on Wednesday is a Mel Arnold/Splatsin?/mof?/public/???/?? on the caribou recovery topic, the way I read things
    ymmv
    Never say whoa in the middle of a mud hole

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    Meeting in Nelson today. Be advised that part of the plan will be to reduce ungulate levels to reduce wolves. We need to push for our own ungulate target numbers. This is a huge threat to us and conservation in general!

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    Quote Originally Posted by happyhunter View Post
    Meeting in Nelson today. Be advised that part of the plan will be to reduce ungulate levels to reduce wolves. We need to push for our own ungulate target numbers. This is a huge threat to us and conservation in general!
    Ironic isn't it.
    Why not just kill the wolves....hmmm
    Robbing Peter to pay Paul!!
    That's Politicians!!

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    Quote Originally Posted by Sitkaspruce View Post
    After the meeting inn FSJ, it just confirmed my thoughts that this has nothing to do with Caribou and everything to do with UNDRIP

    This is all about reconciliation and they are using the iconic caribou as a smoke and mirrors magic act.

    The West Moberly Band has no plans to log their Woodland Lic., Saulteau, who packed up and moved from Manitoba to settle on the shores on Moberly lake only hunted caribou when they were starving, it is not nor was never their main food source.

    This whole thing is about taking Treaty 8 bands and giving them what they want.....land, resources and money. The dams are planning a big part in these deal as well, Loss of traditional land, burial sites, water, resources etc. are all factors that are being avoided in the caribou discussion.

    Just wait until the Blueberry, Halfway, Doig, Prophet Riover and Fort Nelson bands get their "caribou" agreements. My guess is we can kiss good buy all of the eastern slope of the Rockies for any recreational activities, unless you pay up.

    Cheers

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    Nailed it, it has very little to nothing to do with Cariboo, all about FN and if you think it will only to effect Chetwynd, you are very mistaken, there is huge trickle down effect from chip supply to as simple as who the hell believes the government when the say the south part of the Cariboo region will have little impact

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    Quote Originally Posted by Bugle M In View Post
    Ironic isn't it.
    Why not just kill the wolves....hmmm
    Robbing Peter to pay Paul!!
    That's Politicians!!
    The wolf cull is working! Up north the caribou are increasing but the problem is the cull is such bad PR they don’t/can’t keep it up.

    Anyway, they will NEVER gstop wolves to sustainable levels in a natural way without a massive crash to wolf pops and first their prey.

    Everyone and everything is going to suffer with this current direction

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    Thumbs down Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    The latest spin-factor:

    “The agreements place no restrictions on hiking. None on mountain biking. None on camping. Or hunting. Or fishing. And if there are going to be any restrictions on snowmobiling in critical caribou habitat, then there will be new snowmobile areas opened up.” said Chief Willson."


    https://www.wildernesscommittee.org/...bou-agreements

    Guess Horgan's main purpose for his visit was to note they would never be held accountable for lying (much like himself).

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    A big problem with this draft is that there are zero targets or goals as to when objectives have been met.
    Who or what decides when, if ever, we return to how it was before.

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    Re: Caribou Recovery Enguagement

    The other fundamental problem is the engagement process.
    “Engaging is not consulting, listen for the key words folks, engaging is what they’re doing right now. They’re telling you what’s happening, that’s engaging. Consulting is actually a two-way conversation asking for local expertise.”

    Direct from the Sect 11 Agreement: "Canada and British Columbia commit to taking reasonable steps to ensure that stakeholders, such as local governments, non-governmental organizations, private landowners, tenure holders, industry representatives and industry associations are INFORMED of this Agreement.”

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