Wow did this thread ever go south in a hurry, can't figure out why with the good intentions that I am sure Matt had when starting it. I too donated money to Steve and also Trapman on this site, i haven't received any pics nor do i care if i do or do not get them. I trust that the money was well spent and also thank those involved for their time and effort. Maybe one day we can all be as righteous and smart as Gcreek, but for me i would hate to take so many steps backward to achieve this.