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    Sustenance hunt?????

    Not sure how this will go over with the mods.....please don't turn this into the usual native bashing. I'm just trying to pass the info along. If you feel that this isn't sustenance then call and complain.

    Aslo keep in mind that this guy drove 2hrs and then hiked another 2-3hrs to kill a 190ram for sustenance.


    This message is for all sheep hunters or hunters in-general. XXXXXXXXXXXX from Cranbrook has killed a big horn in dry creek after the season claiming indian status. The ram is rumoured over 190. This is trophy hunting not sustenance. Here is a number to call to voice your concerns 250-489-8540 leave a message and mention his name and dry creek. With talking to the game wardens this is one of the best ways to voice your concerns. We have to get together and put a stop to this. THIS IS STRAIGHT OUT POACHING PERIOD. Forward this message to every hunter to take action against these poachers and if you are a wildlife club member voice your concerns to you club president. It takes 1 minute make the call.
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    Re: Sustenance hunt?????

    well calling someone by name out without any proof other then hearsay on the internet probably wont go over well..
    Quote Originally Posted by Bear Brawler View Post
    Just lob a couple loaded mouse traps at em like you're playing horse shoes. More humane than bouncing darts off them.

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    Sure, O.K. it was a sustenance hunt, wink, wink, nod, nod, know what I mean? O.K. sustenance hunt, shouldn't get to keep cape or horns, pretty simple.

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    Re: Sustenance hunt?????

    Food, Social, or Ceremonial purposes.

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    Re: Sustenance hunt?????

    As far as sheep go, at least it was a mature ram and not a younger ram or ewe. If a first nations person wants to take a sheep why not shoot a mature ram?

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    Re: Sustenance hunt?????

    Where did you get this info from? Is there a news article or something? I need some sort of validation beyond what some random dude on the Internet tells me before taking any action.

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    Re: Sustenance hunt?????

    Quote Originally Posted by MattB View Post
    As far as sheep go, at least it was a mature ram and not a younger ram or ewe. If a first nations person wants to take a sheep why not shoot a mature ram?
    is that the same ram that we dream about?
    knowing that the possibility in a lifetime for the draw is extremely unlikely.
    These sheep are well funded, well managed with many volunteer hours being donated, not to mention the monies created for sheep conservation.
    I believe we should all follow the same rules regarding the best interest of the sheep.
    Certain species under conservation concerns, caribou, sheep and others should not be on a sustenance hunting program.
    Just my opinion
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    I am curious to see some actual facts on this.
    Sure the response and condemnation will be fast and furious if this indeed the case.
    There is little room for unregulated killing of funded and highly sensitive species.


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    Re: Sustenance hunt?????

    http://www.hastingstribune.com/sport...3cd67abaa.html

    sorry for hijack but found this interesting article while searching for more about this story...mods can move it if they see fit..

    Doug Leier: Uncertainty continues to surround North Dakota’s bighorn sheep population

    • By Doug Leier Grand Forks Herald (TNS)
    • Oct 24, 2018












    GRAND FORKS, N.D. — North Dakota doesn’t have many bighorn sheep, but vast appreciation and genuine curiosity from hunters and nonhunters alike more than compensates for lack of population.
    As evidence of that, in March 2018, a record 14,617 prospective hunters submitted an application for a North Dakota bighorn sheep license. With two lottery licenses eventually made available, that equates to odds of more than 7,000 to 1 for drawing a license.
    For those who may not realize, the bighorn sheep fills a niche as the only kind of wild sheep in the state. North Dakota had native bighorn sheep, but they were extirpated or gone from the state in the early 1900s. The state did not have any wild sheep from that time until the mid-1950s, when bighorns from British Columbia were transplanted here.



    Managing bighorn sheep in North Dakota has been a challenge, at times, particularly in recent years, when a disease called bacterial pneumonia began making its way through the state’s sheep population. While the sheep population was not necessarily decimated, it did experience losses since the disease first was discovered in 2014.
    The latest numbers, compiled during the recent summer survey in July and August, are encouraging. While biologists counted 77 rams during the summer survey, 12 fewer than 2017 and 27 fewer than 2016, there was some better news in the ewe and lamb counts, according to North Dakota Game and Fish Department big game biologist Brett Wiedmann.
    “The good news is we counted 47 lambs during the summer portion of the survey; that is a pretty high count,” Wiedmann said. “The caveat is that about more than half of them were coughing, showing signs of pneumonia. So what we do is we will go out in March and recount those lambs to determine how many will be recruited into the population and survive their first winter.”
    Wiedmann is cautious, however, as 2017 had the second-lowest lamb recruitment on record, with only four yearling rams observed during the summer survey a year ago. “Encouragingly, no adult animals within the herds that were exposed to disease in 2014 showed clinical signs of pneumonia, and the summer lamb count in those herds improved,” Wiedmann said.
    The next few years will be important in determining if the state’s sheep population continues to show signs of recovering from the disease outbreak, or if the disease is likely to persist and cause a long-term population decline.
    For 2018, Game and Fish issued one lottery license each for sheep units B3 and B4.
    In addition, one license, as authorized under North Dakota Century Code, was auctioned this past spring by the Midwest Chapter of the Wild Sheep Foundation, from which all proceeds are used to enhance bighorn sheep management in North Dakota.



    Similar to last year, Game and Fish announced in February that the status of the bighorn sheep hunting season would be determined after completion of the summer population survey. Prospective hunters were required to apply for a bighorn license in March.
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    Arrow Re: Sustenance hunt?????

    I can find no other references to this matter on the net despite some rather heavy searching...

    If true, it constitutes just as much a sustenance hunt as did the Race Based Trophy Hunt in the National Park last year.

    Disgusting.
    Nog
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