Sustenance hunt?????

[Jelvis]

Resident hunters should be favored for their commitment and dollars they spend to play the game of LEH and the GOS over the Pro Guides --
-- Resident hunters rule, let's hear it -- say it out loud " Resident hunters rule --- again -- resident hunters rule -- gooood well done!

Jello -- Resident hunters over the Pro Guides for LEH draws on a personal basis -- Ever heard Oasis? --> One more -- Resident hunters rule ---> all rah hight

[Wild one]

Absolutely, how else do the outfitters get such a large allocation? It's obviously a political payoff. There should be ZERO outfitter allocation in any area that resident hunters have to apply for LEH draws.

Poor representation of RH played a huge roll betting way more than most think. A lot of BS and exaggerations were thrown around during that time by both sides. That argument was an embarrassment to both RH and GOs a like full of lies smear campaigns and threats

You sure ate up the propaganda. Reality of it is RH we’re not running as saints either. Keep dwelling on it that will cause you to have F all for hunting in BCs future

Make sure RH have better representation in the future is the smart way to learn from that past gong show

[Bugle M In]

Poor representation of RH played a huge roll betting way more than most think. A lot of BS and exaggerations were thrown around during that time by both sides. That argument was an embarrassment to both RH and GOs a like full of lies smear campaigns and threats

You sure ate up the propaganda. Reality of it is RH we’re not running as saints either. Keep dwelling on it that will cause you to have F all for hunting in BCs future

Make sure RH have better representation in the future is the smart way to learn from that past gong show

^^^^Better Representation for RH at the table!!!
That "IS" the biggest problem here in BC.
Like Wild One states, no use going backwards, just learn from the mistakes and move forward!
At this point, I am not blaming the BCWF or the GOABC any longer.
GOABC is taking care of their members, that's understandable.
BCWF is a group of hunters, but they are organized to help wildlife.
WSS is trying to help "right now"!! although they are there for sheep, but they are trying to "reach out" for us right now.

In the end, RH will need an Association themselves. (IMO)

[NMO]

Absolutely, how else do the outfitters get such a large allocation? It's obviously a political payoff. There should be ZERO outfitter allocation in any area that resident hunters have to apply for LEH draws.

How do you figure? In areas that are on LEH, Outfitters have a reduced allocation that is proportionate to the number of tags given to residents. The GOABC are organized, and actually fight for their members. As WildOne pointed out, the same can't be said for Resident Hunters.

What about sheep allocation? Every Sheep outfitter in the province is on a fairly conservative allocation, even though residents aren't. I'm not suggesting they change that, just pointing out that its not the one-sided political conspiracy that you are alluding to. What do you consider a large allocation? The outfit I guide for is on 10 rams/yr for 5'600 square kilometres, and its open to residents... spread the harvest through the area, target older age class rams. Sounds like maybe the GOABC needs to work better on the "Political Payoff".

[LBM]

An email posted by Sparwood F&G Association posted yesterday
I'm sure most have heard of the sheep recently killed out of season. Below is the statement from our local F&W branch.


From FLNROD:
"Dear Hunting and Wildlife Community,

There has been some rumours about a Bighorn sheep ram being recently harvested in the Elk valley. We would like to provide a short update on FLNRORD’s involvement, and what we know about this issue. Please feel free to share this email with others. We are aware that there is considerable social media communication occurring in forums and on Facebook.

In October, FLNRORD was contacted with a rumour that a permit was issued to authorize a harvest of a Bighorn ram in the Elk Valley, outside the legal hunting season. We confirmed at that time that no such permit was issued by FLNRORD.
Based on the recent events it appears that a “permit” letter was drafted by a First Nations band, and issued to a local First Nations hunter.
Neither FLNRORD nor COS have seen this letter.
A Bighorn ram was harvested by a FN hunter on or around November 5 in the Elk Valley in Management Unit 4-23. The FN hunter claims that the harvest was a sustenance hunt and did recover the edible parts.
Given that there was no permit given from FLNRORD side, the harvest is out of season and the FN Hunter involved claim a sustenance hunt, the Conservation Officer Service is investigating and will update us on their findings. It is important to realize that the Canadian constitution and numerous case law decisions have established and upheld the aboriginal right to hunt, fish, trap for food, ceremonial, or cultural purposes. While there are strong opinions about this situation, It is not clear how this circumstance will be interpreted with respect to aboriginal rights.

We will be relaying the COS findings to you as we receive them. "


Anyone with information/comments is asked to call the RAPP line.

Any more updates on this .

[Piperdown]

The nanny killer has gone silent on this thread......