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    Re: FN issues Repost

    Quote Originally Posted by 338win mag View Post
    There is a ton of stuff on this site for your perusal, just look up Sirloins posting of the treatys and other official government documents like this one, but there are many more he has posted.
    http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showth...y-negotiations
    Thanks for that. Sometimes it hard to tell who is expressing facts vs opinion on public forums.

    dont have time for much of a response now but want to retract the defensive reply I made earlier.
    I think we’re all on the same page here - it’s easy for the anger to start coming out. Gotta work together on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by 338win mag View Post
    Word of mouth is a good way, I have been doing this several times a day throughout my busy work day, to the non-hunting public mostly, because its not all about hunting. The socialist media will likely turn on you/us, and put a racist spin on it.
    I do the same but some figure there goes that crazy old racist white dude again, they do not know what we are in for and when I say we I mean them as well

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    Much as I hate to say it, but the BCWF is no longer viable. It does not have the capability to lobby so a new organization is in order. I think that a new organizational will need to include all citizens who are not recepient of First Nations benefits. A unified organization that is goal oriented and a low cost membership so all walks of life can join. First Nations not welcome, status or not. Sounds racist but no worse than First Nations. Jelvis to be excluded.
    Are we ready?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagermeister View Post
    Much as I hate to say it, but the BCWF is no longer viable. It does not have the capability to lobby so a new organization is in order. I think that a new organizational will need to include all citizens who are not recepient of First Nations benefits. A unified organization that is goal oriented and a low cost membership so all walks of life can join. First Nations not welcome, status or not. Sounds racist but no worse than First Nations. Jelvis to be excluded.
    Are we ready?
    I have been trying to say that for a few years now, just, you said it better then I ever could!!
    I do not want to put down the BCWF, as I know they have tried their best, and yes, as with anything, there are mistakes and growing pains.(so need to keep bringing it up folks!!)

    We do need an Association or what have you, that can make a difference for against this whole FN fiasco.
    Yes, a low membership, and hopefully some supported funding from some of the "big boys".
    And yes, not just RH, but GO's as well.
    Time to work together here folks, for not just us, but OUR CHILDREN, and their future.
    Would be nice if some, who have belonged to some other organizations, or from the federation in the past, who "know" how this needs to work, could join in.
    Or, it's time for the BCWF to somehow "rebrand" itself.
    I get it, and others should as well, BCWF is for wildlife, and it's members are hunters.
    But we need representation now for HUNTERS going forward, like right F'n NOW!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Island Roo View Post
    I agree about the public being ignorant. That ignorance needs to change - the truth needs to told. Occasionally, there is some news about progress about treaties. Most people say - Oh thats nice, the FNs need to be treated fairly (like the rest of us). But most people have no idea what the real consequences are.

    I made a couple of suggestions earlier about funding and organization. I think they are both areas that could be explored. Lets hear some more ideas to take this to the next level.
    I have a bro who can make webpages......I think if we all start putting our $$$ toward a resident hunters of BC organization rather than the BCWF it would be a good thing, as we would at least have a voice...BCWF has proven that they don't stand up for resident hunters, and if they're first and foremost a conservation organization ,then how come they haven't actually stood up to the First Nations in the Caribou region, and told them to stop shooting cow and calf moose??

    I quite frankly dont don't have the knowledge or time to start a new organization, but like I said, I would help out anyone where and when I can in any way possible, and I could construct a webpage for such an organization with my brother....are we all going to start doing something about our rights being eroded away, or are we just going to keep whining on here?? Imagine if we all put 30-50$ a year toward such an organization, rather than putting that $$ toward the BCWF? We'd at least have money toward publishing some articles, and calling certain groups out when they spew BS...

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    In the world of hyper liberalism, if a person takes any position other than supporting the cause you are a racist....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagermeister View Post
    Much as I hate to say it, but the BCWF is no longer viable. It does not have the capability to lobby so a new organization is in order. I think that a new organizational will need to include all citizens who are not recepient of First Nations benefits. A unified organization that is goal oriented and a low cost membership so all walks of life can join. First Nations not welcome, status or not. Sounds racist but no worse than First Nations. Jelvis to be excluded.
    Are we ready?
    Amen, let me know how I can help....anyone know where to start? Like I said, say the word and what you folks want on a webpage, and I can make one (give me time) with my brother....let's stop beating a stick against a tree and get something started....

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    Re: FN issues Repost

    Where do I send the ca$h?
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    My bad:my apology to the BCWF...

    http://bcwf.net/index.php/new-items-...3/news-updates

    Looks like the BCWF is issuing some letters in order to stand up for our rights...however, I believe they still need to be more vocal....have they issued these recent letters to the Province or any other mainstream news Feeds??

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    I get it that everyone is pissed but this battle won’t be won by non native hunters squaring off with the native ones.
    Thats what’s been the past way of doing business and it sure as hell hasn’t worked.
    Resident hunters represented by the BCWF, guides under GOABC and First Nations have blamed each other and bickered like kids for years.
    Respectfully working with FN’s and educating them on wildlife issues going forward will go a hell of a lot farther than drawing lines in the sand.
    You guys better study what’s going on right now....there’s been a few political statements made by a handful of First Nations that are beginning to be involved in wildlife management and they were delivered wrong in my opinion.
    The messages have been what I would call a grandstand show of concern.
    No real facts are their to back these concerns even if in some localized areas these bans that FN’s are demanding are actually warranted.
    That said there is reason for concern.
    When the first ban request became announced gasoline was thrown on the fire when a nonfactual, fear mongering letter was sent to our illustrious Premier.
    It’s to bad the non hunter that signed his name to that letter and his non hunting staff that helped write it didn’t try a tactful approach instead of wading in blind.
    Instead of listening and working on a solution to manage these fire impacted areas the race card got pulled and the feathers came out.
    That letter was nothing more than a rally call...done in David Suzuki style.....now we get to pay for it.

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