5-12B shut down for motor vehicles

[silvertipp]

Only trouble as I see it that concerns me when dealing with any game laws or trespassing or whad ever?
1. Online and on phones etc people say lots of things on here for instance, showing they'll make a final stand no one is stopping me under whose and what on and on.

2. In reality when face to face, totally different, the person on line by themselves or with only one buddy out on a fsr stopped for a minute by someone in a official pick up, won't talk like that.

The best way for a hunter to show how they feel, about all this back road stuff, and talks defiant and can't wait for a confrontation and is angry already

-- Drive out in hunting season into the Secwepemc territotry, anywhere that is a problem to you, and when you see or talk to the patrol team talk to them like here.

See what will actually happen and be the one being used to set that court case up! Cops callled etc

Jel -- people went to court to stop Trans Mtn -- used themselves to be charged and taken to court -- now thee others can see what happens, don't need too.

It's thee only way because each and every body's own personal opinions can't always find happy hunting grounds!

We we have already seen what happens
eligsl road block in the Klappan
one man by himself
natives could handle with all there friends
so they called the RCMP
he beat it in court
by himself more of this will happen before this is over

[Scotty76]

George Heyman is poison. This is a good example when an “environmental activists” gets his foot in the door to make decisions. This government must be removed.

[Squamch]

So....think it's still worth going up there? Two.of our group can hike. Two can hike but aren't that into the idea, and my dad has two bad knees, a bad back, and asbestosis.
Or...do we go up to tumbler ridge?

[limit time]

Lots of people on this site wanted this kinda stuff. Now the guides with horses and all native will have free run of the land... sorry seniors, no hunt for your old azz.

[bosch]

Well said northernguy,
I am one of the affected LEH tag holders for 5-12B and am extremely PO'd that the government can change the laws 2 weeks before the season opens. My gal and I have been putting in for LEH's for many years and we finally get one in this area which was a total shot in the dark. We have been planning since the day we found out she was successful and here it is 2 weeks away, time off booked, money budgeted and plans made and BAM!!! this S#$T!!!

My letter to the Minister:

Sir,



I’m writing today to express my concerns about your government’s continued practice of using wildlife management as a tool for reconciliation with First Nations and fulfillment of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.



While reconciliation is important and necessary, the practice of using wildlife management as a tool to achieve reconciliation is not appropriate. This practice does not permit wildlife management decisions to be made with input from all stakeholders, it allows for other agendas to have a potentially negative effect on management outcomes, and it fosters divisiveness between various community members and stakeholders.



In short, the practice is harming effective wildlife management and causing divisiveness.



The statement made by your government regarding hunting closures in Region 5 make it clear that wildlife management is a second priority behind reconciliation with First Nations. Your government’s statement on the closure and restrictions includes the following:



The Motor Vehicle for Hunting Prohibition is a result of deliberations between First Nations and the Province to address concerns related to decreasing moose populations over the past decade and increased vulnerability of moose to hunting due to extreme wildfires, especially the wildfires from the summer of 2017. The Province has made a commitment to reconciliation and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People, and this closure moves towards fulfillment of that commitment.



Provisions in the Wildlife Act empower the Government to restrict First Nations hunting and fishing activities should it become necessary for conservation reasons. If restrictions are put in place for conservation reasons, the government should use the power afforded them by the Wildlife Act and invoke the restrictions for all hunting and fishing.



I remind you that your government has a legal duty of care to wildlife management. No such legal duty exists for your government to implement recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission nor the mandate of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People. As is currently stands, it would be reasonable to suggest that your government is failing in its legal duty of care toward wildlife management in pursuit of political goals that are not required by law.



I’m asking your government to abandon the use of wildlife management as a tool of reconciliation and focus on your legal duty of care as it pertains to wildlife management. I’m also requesting that should restrictions to hunting and fishing be necessary for conservation purposes, that your government use the power afforded by the Wildlife Act and apply the restrictions to everyone.



Kind Regards,

[bosch]

So....think it's still worth going up there? Two.of our group can hike. Two can hike but aren't that into the idea, and my dad has two bad knees, a bad back, and asbestosis.
Or...do we go up to tumbler ridge?

We are in the same boat, I don't mind the hiking but it's a whole different situation when you have to pack a moose out 5k off a spur road. We are bringing a wheelbarrow.

[Jelvis]

A wheelbarrow? Wow good thought hunter, eh, bring a wheel barrow along, a lighter one -- bosch no trosh -- >
Jelly Wheelbarrow - Moose quarters - neck and ribs out on a wheelie barrow -- do a wheeelie selfie -- Get a picture of you or your buddy with a wheelbarrow of moose

[bearvalley]

We are bringing a wheelbarrow.

Try boning it out, putting it in meatsacks and using a pack frame.
I can visualize trying to push a wheelbarrow full of moose meat through the blowdown.
Not my kind of fun.

[338win mag]

Try boning it out, putting it in meatsacks and using a pack frame.
I can visualize trying to push a wheelbarrow full of moose meat through the blowdown.
Not my kind of fun.

I dont have a quad and have been packing meat out in this manner for 40yrs, that would be why my knees causing me grief, but if your in reasonable shape its not to bad.

[northernguy]

I received a response from my MLA (Opposition) to the letter I sent. He was in agreement with my points and was supportive.

Still no response to my letter from the Minister...

In case you missed it, here's a copy of the letter sent to the Minister.

Sir,

I’m writing today to express my concerns about your government’s continued practice of using wildlife management as a tool for reconciliation with First Nations and fulfillment of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.

While reconciliation is important and necessary, the practice of using wildlife management as a tool to achieve reconciliation is not appropriate. This practice does not permit wildlife management decisions to be made with input from all stakeholders, it allows for other agendas to have a potentially negative effect on management outcomes, and it fosters divisiveness between various community members and stakeholders.

In short, the practice is harming effective wildlife management and causing divisiveness in various BC communities.

The statement made by your government regarding hunting closures in Region 5 makes it clear that wildlife management is a second priority behind reconciliation with First Nations. Your government’s statement on the closure and restrictions includes the following:

The Motor Vehicle for Hunting Prohibition is a result of deliberations between First Nations and the Province to address concerns related to decreasing moose populations over the past decade and increased vulnerability of moose to hunting due to extreme wildfires, especially the wildfires from the summer of 2017. The Province has made a commitment to reconciliation and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People, and this closure moves towards fulfillment of that commitment.

Provisions in the Wildlife Act empower your government to restrict First Nations hunting and fishing activities should it become necessary for conservation reasons. If restrictions are put in place for conservations reasons, the government should use the power afforded them by the Wildlife Act and invoke the restrictions for all hunting and fishing.

I remind you that your government has a legal duty of care to wildlife management. No such legal duty exists for your government to implement the recommendations of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission nor the mandate of the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People. As it currently stands, it would be reasonable to suggest that your government is pursuing political goals as a priority while failing in its legal duty of care toward wildlife management.

I’m asking your government to abandon the use of wildlife management as a tool of reconciliation and focus on your legal duty of care as it pertains to wildlife management. I’m also requesting that should restrictions to hunting and fishing be necessary for conservation purposes, that your government use the power afforded by the Wildlife Act and apply the restrictions to everyone.

Kind Regards,