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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    The end play is for control of resources.
    Bigger the area you say is historically yours the more resources you control.


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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    British Columbia’s new commitments to reconciliation
    Something that involves that much should have had public consultation. I alway thought it was a fair trade , our Technology for their land, if we weren't here tha natives would still be throwing rock at their next meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 303savage View Post
    Something that involves that much should have had public consultation. I alway thought it was a fair trade , our Technology for their land, if we weren't here tha natives would still be throwing rock at their next meal.
    YES but more likely still killing each other off

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    Any more about how far this is along?
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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by tigrr View Post
    Any more about how far this is along?
    https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/environment/natural-resource-stewardship/consulting-with-first-nations/first-nations-negotiations/first-nations-a-z-listing/northern-shuswap-tribal-council-northern-secwepemc-te-qelmucw?WT.cg_n=Hootsuite


    This one is in stage 5 final agreement negotiations, after this is final implementation.
    The government also just overhauled the land act making land transfers quicker to transfer crown land over to treaty settlement lands.

    Monday, October 1, 2018
    B.C. land transactions streamlined and modernized



    British Columbians will benefit from changes to a number of statutes that streamline, modernize and improve the security of B.C.’s land title and survey systems.

    “We’re improving services that people count on by making land title transactions more efficient and secure,” said Doug Donaldson, Minister of Forests, Lands, Natural Resource Operations and Rural Development. “We’re also making life more affordable, because people will be able to make simple land title transactions without paying legal fees.”

    Bill 37, the Land Statutes Amendment Act, proposes updating electronic filing provisions by making changes to a number of statutes to create a more robust system that adapts to technology over time. These include:

    • Changes to the Land Act to enable more efficient electronic filing of survey plans that eliminate the need to print and sign paper copies of forms.
    • Land Title Act changes, along with new technology, to enable broader access to electronic filing and eliminate the need for print and ink-signed paper documents. As a result, the public would no longer have to pay a lawyer or notary to authorize a simple land title change. Other proposed changes will make additions to treaty settlement lands easier and less administratively burdensome for Treaty First Nations.
    • Changes to the Property Transfer Tax Act to align the electronic filing of property transfer tax returns with the changes being made to the Land Title Act, thereby improving these services for the general public.
    • Boundary Act amendments to make it easier to clarify technical boundary descriptions along the B.C.-Alberta border.

    The new system changes enabled by Bill 37 are planned to be phased in starting in 2020.
    Learn More:
    To view a copy of the bill and its progress through the legislature, visit: https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary-...gress-of-bills
    https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2018FLNR0293-001904

    https://www.leg.bc.ca/parliamentary-...gress-of-bills





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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirloin View Post


    and...this one brings some memories
    Yup as the road block a few years back

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    If our laws don't apply to them, then their laws don't apply to us for the same reasons as far as I'm concerned. They can pound sand. I'm sure there'd be a civil war the day they say they rule over us.
    Last edited by russm86; 11-01-2018 at 09:04 AM.

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    If our laws don't apply to them, then their laws don't apply to us for the same reasons as far as I'm concerned. They can pound sand. I'd start a civil war the day they say they rule over us.



    Our laws do apply to them. In fact they are using our laws to their advantage.Quite simply they have our laws on their side.They have no wish to rule over you. They do want to control what they believe to be theirs,and our laws agree. I am not saying i agree,i just think folks should understand where they are coming from. The times they are a changing.

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    News Release

    Victoria

    Wednesday, October 31, 2018 9:30 AM



    A new government-to-government agreement between the Northern Secwepemc te Qelmucw (NStQ) and the provincial government will help build healthy and prosperous First Nations communities, benefiting people in the Cariboo region.

    The NStQ and B.C. have committed to collaborate on new approaches to land and resource management, and economic development in the NStQ First Nations’ territories through the Yecweminul’ecw Agreement, which means “Take care of the land” in Secwepemctsín.
    The agreement provides for a more efficient process for consultation with NStQ First Nations on natural resource approvals, and for regular meetings between B.C. and the NStQ to discuss topics of mutual interest.


    NStQ and the Province will also collaborate to develop positive working relationships with other levels of government, including the federal government, local governments and First Nations, as well as industry, ranchers and other stakeholders.


    NStQ First Nations and the federal and provincial governments signed a treaty Agreement-in-Principle on July 22, 2018, and have advanced to the final stage of treaty negotiations. The government-to-government agreement is the first step of a commitment within the Agreement-in-Principle to negotiate co-operative approaches to land and resource decision-making on Crown land in NStQ territories, prior to completing a final treaty.

    (IS THERE ANYONE AT THE TABLE REPRESENTING OUR INTERESTS AS HUNTERS ON OUR OWN PUBLIC LAND RIGHT NOW????)


    The provincial government is committed to developing relationships with NStQ First Nations, and all Indigenous peoples, based on respect and recognition, and guided by the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s Calls to Action and case law.

    Quotes:
    Chief Patrick Harry, Stswcem’c-Xgat’tem First Nation (Canoe Creek-Dog Creek) –
    “Our people have lived in poverty and watched from the sidelines while other governments and corporations have reaped benefits from our lands. This agreement is a good first step toward remedying that injustice. We commend the province for taking it. And we look forward to shared management and shared benefits from the lands we have occupied for millennia.”
    Acting Chief Sheri Sellars, Xat’sūll First Nation (Soda Creek) –
    “Xat’sūll is pleased to finally have this agreement with the Province. Our territory, Secwepemculecw, is vitally important to our current members and our future generations. This agreement will provide us with tools to enhance NStQ’s collective stewardship efforts and serve as a foundation for an even stronger role in the future.”
    Chief Willie Sellars, T’exelc First Nation (Williams Lake) –
    “It’s time for change. It’s time to work together toward reconciliation and revitalization, for our people and for the region that will benefit from our stewardship and innovation. While the negotiation on thegovernment-to-government agreement has been difficult, and although Williams Lake Indian Band recognizes we do not have a perfect agreement, we can utilize this agreement as a starting point for the NStQ on resource talks with government. We look forward to working in partnership with the B.C. government to ensure a thriving Cariboo region and thriving Northern Secwepemc people in future.”
    Chief Helen Henderson, Tsq’escen’ First Nation (Canim Lake) –
    “The way in which government recognizes and acknowledges the inherent rights of First Nations is changing. I would like to commend the Province of B.C. in making the effort to begin that process of strong government-to-government relationships. Through the Yecweminul'ecw Agreement we hope to have serious discussions on the stewardship and economic development of our lands leading to further steps in recognition and reconciliation.”
    Scott Fraser, Minister of Indigenous Relations and Reconciliation
    “First Nations should have a strong voice in the stewardship of land and resources in their territories. Our agreement creates a new foundation for more powerful partnerships with the NStQ First Nations and advances our ongoing treaty negotiations to explore how we manage land and resources together. We are moving forward together as partners and governments to make life better and improve economic opportunities for NStQ members, to the benefit of everyone in the Cariboo.”
    Quick Facts:

    • NStQ represents Tsq’escen’ First Nation (Canim Lake), Stswecem’c-Xgat’tem First Nation (Canoe Creek-Dog Creek), Xat’sūll First Nation (Soda Creek) and T’exelc First Nation (Williams Lake).
    • The NStQ First Nations have more than 2,600 members, and are located in the Cariboo region of British Columbia.
    • Chief Patrick Harry, Stswecem’c-Xgat’tem First Nation; Chief Willie Sellars, T’exelc First Nation; Chief Helen Henderson, Tsq’escen’ First Nation; Acting Chief Sheri Sellars, Xat’sūll First Nation; and Scott Fraser, Minister of Indigenous Relations and Reconciliation, are signatories to the government-to-government agreement.
    • The agreement provides $1.35 million over three years to the NStQ First Nations to support their ability to participate in the agreement.

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    Did Trudeau just throw a wrench into the mix? Are there any lawyers and politicians with the guts to dig into this?

    If reported correctly, It turns out that Canada WAS AT WAR with at least some First Nations!

    From the National Post.
    https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...ging-of-chiefs

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    Speaking to hundreds of the First Nation’s members in British Columbia’s central Interior, Trudeau said the colonial officials of the day erred in inviting the chiefs for peacekeeping talks where they were instead arrested, tried and hanged. He said the chiefs are fully exonerated without any wrongdoing because they were acting as one independent nation engaged in war with another when they attacked a road crew that intruded on their territory.
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