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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    steven listen as a concerned member and also a Secwepemca ancestory from Sway Bacck, Your going to take your thing and put it on Global TV?
    - are we hearing correctly? Ahhh
    anyways listen Global will ah how do you say it with out sounding ah well let's put it this way Global will turn you inside out and make you look like something your not.
    - OK! They interview you for an hour and record your every move and sound and then cut that 60 minute interview into one minute for TV. To what they want.
    Jel -- They are professionals and know how to get the audience and follow ups. Follow ups, after the TV show comes on in Willy's Pond!
    --------------> " Im not telling you, a wonderful member, what to do, you do what YOU want ------------jist think a lil bit b4 making a recorded Global interview. "
    Last edited by Jelvis; 07-31-2018 at 07:21 PM. Reason: signs in offices warning the public not to flip or out you go

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Jelvis View Post
    steven listen as a concerned member and also a Secwepemca ancestory from Sway Bacck, Your going to take your thing and put it on Global TV?
    - are we hearing correctly? Ahhh
    anyways listen Global will ah how do you say it with out sounding ah well let's put it this way Global will turn you inside out and make you look like something your not.
    - OK! They interview you for an hour and record your every move and sound and then cut that 60 minute interview into one minute for TV. To what they want.
    Jel -- They are professionals and know how to get the audience and follow ups. Follow ups, after the TV show comes on in Willy's Pond!
    --------------> " Im not telling you, a wonderful member, what to do, you do what YOU want ------------jist think hard and long b4 making a recorded Global interview.
    That's a really good point.

    IF the media sees it as a kind of an esoteric matter, internal to the FN themselves, they won't report on it. Give them an angry white guy to play off of, and now it's a "story" - lol. They'll ask you leading questions, that are hard to say no to in the moment. They'll bait you and make you look like an asshole.

    I think one reason the media might leave this alone, is its massive complexity. To be seen as accurately reporting, they'd have to contend with at least 100 years of myth, and stereotype. It would be a gargantuan endeavour to discuss it in the "public square", through the 6'clock news. There are plenty of long format books on the matter, however.

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    --- Global TV and it's advertiser's don't want to be seen in any negative way against the Natives now, they want to sell, sell, sell and being classed as an anti anything, it better be popular or people won't buy your product anymore, they lose business if they get labelled as a ----negative source.
    Jel It's all about the money - now Justin and John and many others have openly endorsed favoring and knowing the world is watching Canada now, they love Canada now!
    -----Canada is the most popular place to go to now, New York Times placed it on the go to place, the world has taken note -- Quebec and BC and Ontario all go to
    Last edited by Jelvis; 07-31-2018 at 07:54 PM. Reason: I Got Friends in Low Places

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by Jelvis View Post
    steven listen as a concerned member and also a Secwepemca ancestory from Sway Bacck, Your going to take your thing and put it on Global TV?
    - are we hearing correctly? Ahhh
    anyways listen Global will ah how do you say it with out sounding ah well let's put it this way Global will turn you inside out and make you look like something your not.
    - OK! They interview you for an hour and record your every move and sound and then cut that 60 minute interview into one minute for TV. To what they want.
    Jel -- They are professionals and know how to get the audience and follow ups. Follow ups, after the TV show comes on in Willy's Pond!
    --------------> " Im not telling you, a wonderful member, what to do, you do what YOU want ------------jist think a lil bit b4 making a recorded Global interview. "
    Ya think real hard, because you will be representing about 4.5 million people, not just one guy, I'm sure thats what Jelvis means...dont let the general public in on whats going on, thats stupid. Would that be right jelvis??
    Lets consider what it means to "control the media control the message"

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    The left wing media will spin it and try and make srupp look bad , however that is how govt and some of their non profit “ partners” operate. Thru fear and persecution. Srupp your retired. Their is f all they can do to you! Stand your ground , don’t be cowed by people who don’t have the jam to take a stand . Be respectful and articulate and the rest off us will sort the wheat from the chaff. So unfortunate that individuals like yourself have to take the hit while orgs that take people’s money hide in the shadows. Keep up the good work !
    Last edited by Deaddog; 08-01-2018 at 04:15 AM.

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    William’s Lake, BC - Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada

    Today, the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations, Carolyn Bennett and the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance, signed a Recognition of Indigenous Rights and Self-Determination Memorandum of Understanding (MOU).

    The goal of Recognition of Indigenous Rights and Self-Determination discussion tables is to bring greater flexibility to negotiations based on the recognition of rights, respect, cooperation and partnership.

    The MOU outlines the priorities identified by the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance, and will be used as a starting point for continuing discussions. This joint work is being undertaken with the goal of working together toward shared solutions that help to, advance reconciliation and strengthen relationships for everyone’s benefit.



    Quotes
    “The signing of the Memorandum of Understanding with the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance is an important step on our path to Canada’s commitment to building relationships with Indigenous peoples based upon the recognition of rights, respect, cooperation and partnership. I am honoured to be part of today’s signing and look forward to working collaboratively with the leadership of the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance in addressing their challenges and harnessing the opportunities.”

    The Honourable Carolyn Bennett, M.D., P.C., M.P.
    Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations

    “This moment is a recognition that the paths of the past are no more, and that the legacy of the denial of our rights has given way to the recognition of our title and rights and a brighter and healthier future for our people.”

    Chief Clifford Lebrun
    Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance

    Quick facts
    The Southern Dakelth Nation Alliance was established in 2016.


    The Southern Dakelth Nation Alliance includes four nations (Lhoosk’uz Dené Nation, Lhtako Dené Nation, Nazko First Nation and Ulkatcho Nation), whose traditional territories extend throughout the Northern Interior of British Columbia.

    The Government of Canada is working with Indigenous communities at about 60 discussion tables across the country to explore new ways of working together to advance the recognition of Indigenous rights and self-determination. These discussions represent more than 320 Indigenous communities, with a total population of more than 700,000 people.

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    British Columbia and the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance have signed a government-to-government agreement that establishes a new relationship based on respect and recognition of rights.

    The Foundation Framework Agreement, or Hubulhsooninats’Uhoot’alh – Dakelh for “together we will fix it” – lays out a foundation for building comprehensive reconciliation and a positive government-to-government relationship between British Columbia and the First Nations of the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance, based in the Cariboo.

    The agreement commits B.C. and the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance to work on collaborative decision-making over land and resource management, increasing First Nations economic development and participation in the forest economy, improving consultation on resource development, and developing culture and wellness priorities.

    Both the provincial and federal governments are working toward building strong relationships and advancing reconciliation with the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance.

    This agreement with the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance reflects B.C.’s interest in building relationships with Indigenous peoples based on respect and recognition of rights, as guided by the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, the Truth and Reconciliation Commission Calls to Action and case law.

    Quotes:

    Scott Fraser, Minister of Indigenous Relations and Reconciliation –

    “Our partnership with the Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance will promote trust-building and guide us in finding new ways of working, learning and collaborating together. British Columbia is committed to building an enduring partnership with the Southern Dakelh Nations, one that upholds their inherent rights and opens up new opportunities for their communities.”

    Doug Donaldson, Minister of Forests, Lands, Natural Resource Operations and Rural Development –

    “This Foundation Framework Agreement provides an important venue for collaborative work on a number of topics of mutual interest, including wildfire prevention and response, timber supply review, and moose and caribou management.”

    Chief Liliane Squinas, Lhoosk’uz Dené Nation –

    “We are committed to working together as a Nation and as partners. We are also committed to working with our neighbours and relatives beyond our territories in a good and healthy way.”

    Chief Clifford Lebrun, Lhtako Dené Nation –

    “We know that the next step in this work will be harder than the work behind us, but we are responsible as leaders to bring about real change – we will not waver from this responsibility and will remain committed to ensuring that the good words from your government turn out to be more than just words.”

    Chief Stuart Alec, Nazko First Nation –

    “We are all in one canoe – we can either paddle together or sink together. This agreement commits us to working together, deepening our partnership and relationship for the benefit of our youth, our elders and our communities.”

    Chief Betty Cahoose, Ulkatcho Nation –

    “This agreement represents only the beginning. Tomorrow, our work as partners begins to bring tangible benefits to our communities.”

    Quick Facts:

    Southern Dakelh Nation Alliance represents Lhoosk’uz Dené Nation, Lhtako Dené Nation, Nazko First Nation and Ulkatcho Nation, all based in the Cariboo.
    The agreement was signed by:
    Ministers Scott Fraser and Doug Donaldson, on behalf of the Province
    Chief Liliane Squinas, Lhoosk’uz Dené Nation
    Chief Clifford Lebrun, Lhtako Dené Nation
    Chief Stuart Alec, Nazko First Nation
    Chief Betty Cahoose, Ulkatcho Nation

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    Little history of the management going on in this region BEFORE these treaty settlements, imagine whats going to happen after...


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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    Quote Originally Posted by 338win mag View Post
    The scary part is.... the courts will decide,,,, the courts stacked with Liberal judges.
    You do know six out of nine judges on the Supreme Court were nominated by Stephen Harper right?

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    Re: NStQ First Nations, B.C., Canada advance to final treaty negotiations

    ^^^^^^^

    I wouldn't engage with this.

    There are two types of people on this forum as far as i'm concerned.

    One - People who care about the fate of the hunting community in BC and our hunting opportunities for ourselves, our children and future generations of BC.

    two - those who do not.

    As far as I can tell, lots in this second category are here to drag you down into meaningless squabbles, sow division and pull your eye off the target. Keep your eye's on the target, and the thread on track.

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