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  1. #31
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    Re: Motor vehicle closures to protect grizzly bears

    Death by a thousand cuts....no one protecting our rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dana View Post
    Yes they are there. Hand in hand with Raincoast!
    Well some here continue their attack on the Fed. Your actually humerous. For example ......
    Rageous...... Wheres BCWF on this....... You expect them to be your saviour....... You and Dinas type above seem to figure they stand for all things in White eyes favour. All things fixed for resident hunters, all things protected to suit your needs. Your plight and types seem to forget theres far more players in this game.
    Why dont your type get off you sorry arses and set up your own protest. Get you and your few little groupies to cry Penalty Penalty...... Same ol bitchers ...... The type that guide their own by saying.....
    Well Nannies are open so go ahead and shoot...... Funny..... All for the betterment of self gratification.
    Again. Can any of you name an organization that has as much for BC Fish and Wildlife then the BCWF ...... ? Crickets.
    You hypocrites.
    But......Like Turdo and his hair, he does have nice pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rageous View Post
    I'm sure it's been thought of and said before but I'm a slow learner...ive just realized to me it's looks like these groups are partnering up with the aboriginals to get what they both want perspectively.

    Aboriginals gets pretty much everything for themselves. And these groups put a huge dent into hunting in general.

    I hold the past and current government responsible for this entire debacle.

    What can one guy do?!
    Yup you nailed it. That's what it looks like to me. Also with the NDP+GREENS, left wing socialist circles are usually hand in hand with the the environmental / anti hunting activists. Their utopian feel good ideologies tend to overlap and are not far behind.


    One of the members from the Coast to Cascades Grizzly Bear Initiative (which helped create this access management plan) also manages at CPAWS which is also listed as a partner organization on their website.

    CPAWS online retweets and share anti hunting posts from PacificWild members of RainCoast Foundation like this.

    This is CPAWS BC sharing a post from a member of Raincoast anti-hunting group.
    This person here is a member of Raincoast




    It appears to me these groups are currently pushing to remove hunting related revenue from tags and licenses from being used in wildlife management throughout the country.








    Appears they also have lots of help. Here is CPAWS hosting a night with Catherine McKenna, Minister of Environment and climate change.



    And again, with CPAWS conservation director



    And CPAWS hosting a dinner with Y2Y Yellowstone to Yukon Conservation Initiative (Y2Y have been called a trojan horse, anti-hunting group by many in the hunting community from what ive seen)

    http://www.outdoorsmenforum.ca/showthread.php?t=59209

    Canadian Parks & Wilderness Society (CPAWS) has been at the forefront of efforts to 're-wild' the west, and Mountain Equipment Co-op (MEC) is their 'substantial' supporter. Unfortunately the CPAWS/MEC version of 'protected lands' usually involves national or provincial park protection - which of course, eliminates hunting, trapping and other outdoor recreational opportunities. Fresh off their success in a massive expansion of Nahanni Park (eliminating some prime hunting territories) they have now set their sights on expanding Waterton National Park to include the adjoining Flathead area of B.C. (a traditional hunting & recreational area to Kootenay residents). But more frightening, is that the CPAWS/MEC vision is to "protect at least HALF OF CANADA'S PUBLIC LAND" - which would severely restrict hunting/trapping/outdoor recreation as we now know it. This is from a recent press release:


    "MEC has recognized CPAWS as its national conservation partner and is a substantial contributor to our organization. In co-founding thebigwild.org with CPAWS, MEC has deeply invested in this new media campaign by providing funds, communications, staff time and expertise. MEC is proud to share CPAWS vision of protecting at least half of Canada's public land and water."
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    Quote Originally Posted by curly top View Post
    Well some here continue their attack on the Fed. Your actually humerous. For example ......
    Rageous...... Wheres BCWF on this....... You expect them to be your saviour....... You and Dinas type above seem to figure they stand for all things in White eyes favour. All things fixed for resident hunters, all things protected to suit your needs. Your plight and types seem to forget theres far more players in this game.
    Why dont your type get off you sorry arses and set up your own protest. Get you and your few little groupies to cry Penalty Penalty...... Same ol bitchers ...... The type that guide their own by saying.....
    Well Nannies are open so go ahead and shoot...... Funny..... All for the betterment of self gratification.
    Again. Can any of you name an organization that has as much for BC Fish and Wildlife then the BCWF ...... ? Crickets.
    You hypocrites.
    But......Like Turdo and his hair, he does have nice pictures.
    okay, I'll play your game. Please tell me all the greatness that the Fed has done for the wildlife of this province? Hahaha!
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    To me it appears that they seem to be pushing these FN "unsettling" and "decolonize Canada" movements for FN to gain total supremacy over Canadian land too.




    http://unsettling150.ca/canada-must-read-reconciliation-edition/


    For the great Secwepemc leader Arthur Manuel, decolonization meant recovering the land, and rebuilding the economy. His book “The Reconciliation Manifesto” presents a devastating look at the backrooms and predatory spaces of settler state colonialism in Canada. But it also theorizes in plain language the steps Indigenous peoples are taking and must take to get back their lands and emplace themselves back in protective spaces of belonging and political freedom.

    A collection of reflections that encompass a multiplicity of vital issues and analysis on Canadian bureaucracy, policies, legislation, law, and culture, this book also tackles the complicated culture of “Indian Act” governments, put in place by Canada and structured to be complicit with the worst of Canada’s assimilation agenda.


    This season, we invite people to join us in another national reading campaign of The Reconciliation Manifesto.


    The project of “Canada Must Read” was launched simultaneously with the Defenders of the Land / Idle No More campaign #Unsettle150 to counter the 2017 celebrations of Canada’s 150 years of colonization. We selected Arthur Manuel’s first book, “Unsettling Canada: A National Wake-Up Call” to launch the series, since it so clearly and beautifully spells out the recent history of Indigenous political struggle on these lands. Hundreds of people took up the call and read the book, on their own or in study groups, and reached out to tell us how much they learned and were affected by Manuel’s powerful writing.


    And here is the CBC creating a series where they judge Sir John A. Macdonald by todays standards...literally in a trial, infront of a judge... they hired actors to act out their fantasy of convicting Sir John A. Macdonald for crimes against humanity.


    https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/the-t...oday-1.4614303


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    Deeper look into the unsettling / decolonize Canada movement



    Pay attention.

    Our hunting rights are entirely at stake here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxhitch View Post
    "okay, I'll play you game. Please tell me all the greatness the the Fed has done for the wildlife of this province? Hahaha! ""
    that would be a pointless exercise with someone so sanctimonious as you
    Oh come on now, please extol the virtues of JayZee and his Raincoast band of merry men, woman and other genders.

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    Sirloin, I watched the video in post 37 in its entirety and would encourage others to do the same.
    A couple points.....I dont think it would be fair to compare Clarence Louie's band with another band in an impoverished area of Canada for obvious reasons, however the progressive attitude of Mr Louie can be applied by all.
    There is a reason Ron Derrickson's life has been attempted to be terminated in the past.

    On Mr Louie's comment "real warrior's work" There is a mindset among native youth that if you work then your "white" or an "apple" so the peer pressure among the youth to succeed is really keeping alot of young guys down, so....real warriors do work.
    Not only that but the attitude is rubbing off on wannabee indians who have no native blood whatsoever, being fooled and nothing better to do than push the UN agenda, a truly foreign agenda that should be rebuked by all native Canadians.

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    If an area is closed to vehicles, then it should be closed to ALL vehicles. Period. I spoke to one of the COs in Whistler a couple of weeks ago and he said that the guy conducting the study on the Lilloet FSR would drive up the road, park and start checking his trail cams. It became clear to him that the bears knew when he was coming from a long way off, and would haul ass out of the area consistently when he was a about 2km away. So if they are being disturbed by him going in, they are going to be disturbed by EVERY vehicle that goes in. Let the IPP folks and “natives” (they immigrated here too!) walk in as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rageous View Post
    What can one guy do?!
    It starts with “one guy” (preferably somebody with ACTUAL knowledge on the situation) coming up with a legitimate plan to get our voice heard. Something along these lines:

    http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showth...eds-Your-Vote!

    I’m not as well read on the subject as quite a few people on here, but if someone has the time to put together a game plan for getting our voices heard, I’d bet a lot of people would get onboard. Maybe it starts wth a petition to Victoria and Ottawa and a discrimination complaint with a human rights tribunal? Let’s face it, as white North American heterosexual males (a lot of us here are), we are rapidly becoming the most discriminated against component in our society. Yes, a lot of it is the pendulum swinging back, as history is full of poor examples of white males, but I thought it was all about “equality” now?
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