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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    For the benefit of ungulates.......all recent fire area's should be closed to vehicular traffic, especially hunting, closed to all people not just some.
    If we want habitat for ungulates then the roads need to be closed, cant have it both ways. If there is any benefit to closed vehicular access it will be for the ungulate population.

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    This came from a page shot that someone posted up on another sm site, thats why I asked if anyone else had seen it.
    Original was labelled 'To Tenure Holder'
    Never say whoa in the middle of a mud hole

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    Appears to be bogus, don't trust the intrawweb
    Never say whoa in the middle of a mud hole

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    Quote Originally Posted by 338win mag View Post
    For the benefit of ungulates.......all recent fire area's should be closed to vehicular traffic, especially hunting, closed to all people not just some.
    If we want habitat for ungulates then the roads need to be closed, cant have it both ways. If there is any benefit to closed vehicular access it will be for the ungulate population.
    Your thinking is completely backwards.
    It's actually a good time to harvest ungulates after a fire as the food supply is so low for a few years there is too much competition and they end up having a hard time wintering.
    It's better to have less animals eating what food is available rather than too many animals competing for the food that isn't.
    This is a very simple concept that has been documented in other large burn areas,

    You made a good point until that little slur at the end which I removed. I've punted you before, its not hard to do again!
    Last edited by Steeleco; 05-15-2018 at 03:56 PM.

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    ...thought I found a good article on food available after a burn but it was lame...will keep looking
    Last edited by wideopenthrottle; 05-15-2018 at 10:17 AM.

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    One thing I wished I had done last season after the fire was to select a few areas to photograph, and
    then as each season goes by, take photos every year of those same scenes and there changes over time.

    Glad to hear the article was bogus.

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    Yes, its real. Apparently to restrict access to the 1200km of cat track fire breaks that were put in fighting the fires. Heard they will be deactivating/ remediating the cat tracks this summer. Waiting for clarification on if it affects travel on FSRs or only deactivated roads and trails.

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    Quote Originally Posted by dmaxtech View Post
    Yes, its real. Apparently to restrict access to the 1200km of cat track fire breaks that were put in fighting the fires. Heard they will be deactivating/ remediating the cat tracks this summer. Waiting for clarification on if it affects travel on FSRs or only deactivated roads and trails.
    That part I can understand, and agree fully with, as you could get 3 shots off before the deer crossed (IMO).
    Plus, and I don't know how they managed it, but they put those fire breaks "right into several honey holes"
    (amazing how that happened!!??)

    But, to have it all shut down til December seems a little much.
    That means they have "canned the entire area" for hunting this fall.
    If that's the case, I guess other areas are going to get a whole lot more crowded.
    People heading back to some old stomping grounds that they have hunted in years I suppose?
    (Saw that happen when R5 closed for nov 10 -20th)
    What are they worried about, that someone is going to get shot accidently??
    I can understand banning the quads for now, just like last season.
    (that's was a good decision, IMO, but only for time to deactivate stuff)

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    Re: Elephant Hill Fire Area closed to all motorized vehicles

    Likely a result of this review...
    https://bcfloodfirereview.ca/

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