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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    It is pretty obvious what our collective values are...
    It is well to try and journey ones road and to fight with the air.Man must die! At worst he can die a little sooner." (H Ryder Haggard)

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    We need to know four things. What there is,what to do about what there is,that there is a difference between knowing what there is,and knowing what to do about what there is and what that difference is. J Peterson.
    It is well to try and journey ones road and to fight with the air.Man must die! At worst he can die a little sooner." (H Ryder Haggard)

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    Earlier this year there were plans put in place to save a small herd of Selkirk Caribou.

    http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn...elkirk-caribou

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    Quote Originally Posted by horshur View Post
    It is pretty obvious what our collective values are...
    is it though? not to me.

    some people see an old growth cedar forest, and hear chainsaws, see neatly stacked lumber lifts waiting for export across the ocean to Japan, and imagine the house and toys they can afford after the numbers accumulate in their bank accounts for their part in it.

    others may see it as nearly sacred, an increasingly rare zone of biodiversity, worthy of emptying their bank account to protect with funds amassed from some impact somewhere else.

    Some see a big open snowy alpine mountain face as a place to test one's resolve in silence. Others a place to do the same with a 70hp machine, others again the money involved in developing a system to convey as many tourists as possible as easily as possible. Still others see the minerals involved below the surface.

    Are any of these values regarding the same physical thing wrong?

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    Quote Originally Posted by Ride Red View Post
    "Some recovery program officials cautioned, however, that the primarycause of the decline in the southern Selkirk caribou population is currentlyunknown and it is important not to designate predation as the ultimatereason. For example, these officials noted that marginal habitat may be themajor problem."

    it it then goes on to describe the existent impacts of motorized winter recreation. This was written before the exact mechanism of injury regarding winter recreation was fully known.

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    What people do..is what they believe. Not what they say or think. In that stead it is obvious the beliefs of the collective for the most part.
    It is well to try and journey ones road and to fight with the air.Man must die! At worst he can die a little sooner." (H Ryder Haggard)

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    Quote Originally Posted by Pemby_mess View Post
    Roads with machine packed snow are a lot easier for the wolves to intercept caribou and other ungulates from. If machine packed snow is present up into the alpine, where it wasn't before, wolves are going to have a predatory advantage that they formerly never had.
    Have you ever walked a caribou trail?

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    Quote Originally Posted by panhead View Post
    Check out this bou ...
    http://www.richmond-news.com/news/pr...tat-1.23266638
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    An old man was walking the beach early one morning, bending down to pick up starfish and throwing them out into the ocean. A teenager came by and asked, “Old man, what are you doing?”

    “These starfish will die of dehydration once the sun comes up high,” he said. “I’m throwing them back into the ocean so they will live.”

    “Ha!” the young man spat sarcastically. “The beach goes on for miles, and there are millions of starfish. What does it matter what you do?”

    The old man looked at the starfish in his hand and then flipped it to safety in the waves. “It matters to this one,” he said.

    Yes panhead, they will keep plucking the chicken til it dies.

  9. #49
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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    Quote Originally Posted by gcreek View Post
    Have you ever walked a caribou trail?
    i think so, what's your point?

    that the caribou pack down the snow as they move? Have you ever walked up a cat-track?

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    Re: Selkirk Caribou close to Extinct

    Quote Originally Posted by horshur View Post
    What people do..is what they believe. Not what they say or think. In that stead it is obvious the beliefs of the collective for the most part.
    yes, there is some wisdom there. I guess I'm more optimistic that an extinction or confirmed extirpation has the ability to force some of us to at least re-evaluate what our values are.

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