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Thread: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

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    Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    I just submitted feedback in regards to the proposed regulations changes for Skeena North Moose.

    I'm curious if anyone else feels the same way as I do.

    My feedback was as follows:


    To whom it may concern:

    I am distressed to read that the any bull season in Region 6 North is currently under scrutiny. I have lived in the north my entire life and it is of great importance to my family and I that I can fill my freezer with moose meat on a yearly basis. I am a 4th generation resident hunter of BC and do not understand why my rights to fill the freezer keep getting eroded because someone else's rights to do the same thing allegedly trump mine.
    There are plenty of moose in the northern areas of region 6 and I am appalled that this regulation change is being considered, in part, on the basis of "Addressing First Nations concerns of high licensed hunter use of culturally important areas." I'm sick and tired of the First Nations lobbying wildlife managers to more and more whittle away the seasons for licensed hunters. Anyone who thinks it is going to stop here is delirious.
    I was raised by two wildlife biologists in this province and have always had great respect for the hunting and fishing regulations and what they aim to accomplish. I am completely on board with tightening hunting seasons when there is a legitimate conservation concern but this is not at all the case here. This is a case of re-allocation of wildlife resources based on ethnicity.

    If resident hunters are going to have any stake in the game at all in 20 years, wildlife managers are going to have to grow a backbone and stop pandering to First Nations lobbying attempts to cut everyone else out of the game but themselves. So far it has been working fantastically for them. If I submitted a regulation proposal to restrict all licensed hunters with the exception of myself and my hunting buddies from hunting moose in our favourite drainage, based on the rationale that we didn’t want to have to deal with any competition for the moose, it would get laughed right out of the office! Why then is the exact same tactic working wonderfully for the First Nations lobbying efforts?
    I am completely supportive of First Nations rights to hunt and fish for food, social, and ceremonial purposes. But they have no right to restrict the rights of every licensed hunter in this province just because we are all competing for the same resource. Competition in the hunting world is nothing new. But systematic reduction of the competition based on ethnicity is definitely a new trend and it is catching on with frightening success.

    Throughout the hunting and fishing community in BC, there is currently growing frustration and resentment towards both First Nations people as well as the wildlife regulations that protect our treasured resources. For many, many people in this province, filling the freezer with wild meat each year is an activity deeply embedded in our culture and history just as it is within the First Nations’ culture and history. As British Columbians, we all have a right to the wildlife of this province just as the First Nations do. It’s time that the wildlife managers acknowledge our shared rights and stop letting special interest groups convince them otherwise. Everyone has a right to fight for their best interests, but it’s not always right that they should win.

    In the words of George Carlin, “Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.”

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    Arrow Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    Very Well Said Sir!

    Unfortunately even though bang on, and right well spoken, the message will fall on deaf ears.
    We are the third or fourth class of citizen in BC & Canada now, and until we pony up and deal with that, the erosion I am afraid will continue...

    Sadly,
    Nog
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVNNhzkJ-UU&feature=related

    Egotistical, Self Centered, Son of a Bitch Killer that Doesn't Play Well With Others.

    Guess he got to Know me

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    I concur . I grew up with natives in N Van and quite like them , but when I see BC hunter rights being eroded to satisfy a specific ethic group - not very thrilled .

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    Pale male, bottom of the food chain.

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    If there are plenty of moose around there is no legitimate reason to shorten the seasons for resident hunters. IF there are still guided hunts being sold in this region, then they should be the first to go if the moose population is in trouble.

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    you lost me at third sentence. You have a RIGHT to fill your freezer with moose meat? Sorry. I can't take your letter seriously enough to finish reading anymore.

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Russell View Post
    you lost me at third sentence. You have a RIGHT to fill your freezer with moose meat? Sorry. I can't take your letter seriously enough to finish reading anymore.
    So sad, but true.....it is not a right for the majority of us.

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    Fair point.

    But what's your solution? To just quit hunting because someone else tells you that they deserve the resource more than you do?

    I think we all have a right to a share of the resources of this province.

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    Quote Originally Posted by canishunter22-250 View Post
    Fair point.

    But what's your solution? To just quit hunting because someone else tells you that they deserve the resource more than you do?

    I think we all have a right to a share of the resources of this province.
    We need to have the opportunity....you need to steer clear of the word "right" because they will use it to THEIR advantage!

    Comments, especially printed can be great, or ignored depending on how things are worded. Comments can and are twisted to put us in a bad light

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    Re: Is anyone else sick of getting sidelined at our own game?

    Quote Originally Posted by canishunter22-250 View Post
    Fair point.

    But what's your solution? To just quit hunting because someone else tells you that they deserve the resource more than you do?

    I think we all have a right to a share of the resources of this province.
    My solution?

    Hammer home the idea of Science. Count the wildlife. Report wildlife "harvested". Allocate future harvest accordingly. For everyone.

    It HAS been done. See this report on Federal Fisheries refusing to increase the Native alotment of sockeye due to low runs and the Feds WINNING in court:
    http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn...or-more-salmon

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