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  1. #31
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    This is probably just a good thread where people here can post "Anti Hunting Campaigns" as they come across them.
    It's would just stay as a "constant reminder" to everyone here who cares about hunting and it's future, and to "not
    fall asleep" thinking nothing bad is happening out there.
    So, if you come across some Anti BS, post it!
    Remind people here what is going on out there.

  2. #32
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    Opinion: End 'hunter-centric' model of wildlife management


    British Columbians rejoiced Dec. 18 when, after years of public pressure, the provincial government finally put an end to the highly unpopular grizzly bear hunt.
    The government’s decision appeared to signal a new chapter of wildlife management for the province — something that many independent scientists and conservationists have long been calling for. Its news release on the grizzly hunt stated: “The government will also be moving forward with a broader consultation process on a renewed wildlife management strategy for the province in the new year.”
    Wildlife policy in B.C. is heavily influenced by the recreational hunting lobby and, as a result, treats wildlife as a resource to be exploited and controlled, instead of conserved. Many hoped a renewed wildlife management strategy would mark a new era of transparent, science-based and conservation-minded decision-making, with genuine public consultation surrounding wildlife management strategies.
    The excitement was short-lived, as the day following the government’s historic grizzly bear hunt announcement the provincial government posted 68 proposed hunting regulations on its Angling, Hunting and Trapping Public Engagement website. With the distraction of the grizzly hunt announcement, not to mention the holiday season, the proposed rules got little attention and, with a closing date of Jan. 19, 2018, gave little time for public feedback.
    The 2018-20 proposals range from allowing motor-vehicle exemptions for trappers, to increasing bag limits to creating new or extending existing hunting/trapping seasons and shortening or closing of others. Many British Columbians, if they were made aware of the regulations, would likely be shocked, not only by the nature of these proposals, but also by the rationale behind them.
    For example, the government’s suggestion to lengthen the wolf trapping season on Vancouver Island isn’t based on scientific evidence (as the government itself admits), but instead on anecdotal sightings and observations of an increased wolf population and a lack of ungulates (primarily deer). In fact, the proposed rule states that “much of the information the province’s wildlife managers obtain regarding wolf populations is anecdotal, with a reliance on public sightings and observations.” This wildly ill-informed proposal would subject wolves to two additional months per year of physical and mental suffering, and prolonged, painful deaths.
    Another controversial hunting regulation is the suggested “Cougar Pursuit Only Season,” which the proposal justifies as “an opportunity for hunters, specifically hunters that use hounds, to continue pursuing cougar after they’ve reached their bag limit. The main rationale for the season is to provide houndsmen the opportunity to exercise and train their dogs.” This proposal comes in the midst of growing opposition to the practice of hound-hunting itself, as showcased by the recent public outcry following a TV-show host’s online post, posing with and bragging about a cougar he hound-hunted in Alberta last December. Many opponents argue the practice of hound-hunting is unethical in that it fails to meet the definition of “fair-chase.” Meanwhile, this “pursuit-only” proposal amounts to nothing more than government-authorized harassment of wildlife. During pursuit-only seasons, adult cougars and kittens are sometimes attacked and injured by hounds, separated due to extensive chases and run down to exhaustion.
    This quietly and quickly proposed list of hunting regulations seems less like a broadly consulted “renewed wildlife management strategy” and more like the special-interest policies of the past that have long-plagued wildlife throughout B.C. It’s time for the provincial government to do away with this outdated, hunter-centric model of wildlife management and to implement a conservation model that isn’t only science-based, but also ecologically and ethically informed.
    Emily Pickett is president of the Wildlife Defence League, a grassroots organization that works to end the exploitation of wildlife in B.C.

    http://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-e...ife-management
    Last edited by Ohwildwon; 02-14-2018 at 04:36 PM.
    He's anything but a hunter.
    More like another, Rain Coast Sociopath Fraud. Living off the prevails of his chronic lies, like the rest of them...

    It's an issue, because these sociopath environmentalist's, will dilute the facts.
    To the point you or Joe public, won't know them any more..
    They count on that big time..

  3. #33
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    This article was sent to me at 6 this morning and I’m amazed at the inaccuracies in it but then the perpetual spew of lies is expected considering the organization the author is connected to. Knowing a little bit about what goes into proposed regulation changes, the debating and consideration as to why a season is warranted and why a change may be proposed I would suggest that Ms Pickett stick with what she’s good at.....milking the uneducated public.
    We have opened ourselves up to these anti hunting, funding scamists. They know hunters are fragmented, they know hunters have a weak voice and presently they are doing their best to discredit hunters as hard as they can to the non hunting public that rides in the middle.
    In no shape or form does Ms Pickett, Tommy Knowles or their predecessor Paul Watson really care about the so called wildlife they are/were out to save, this battle is entirely about the almighty dollar.
    Every man and woman in this province that values our privilege to hunt had better sit back and think about where we are going. We’ve got 2 choices, we can pull our heads out of the sand, put forth the message that we are conservationists with the best interests of wildlife and the land that wildlife thrives in as our highest held value....or we can throw out the image that we are first cousins to a Neanderthal that wants to turn Bambi into gut stuffing.
    We need some sharp players to step up to the plate, we need an organization that we can all gather under with no past mistrust and we need an untouchable message to be put forth.
    At present we do not have this and not meaning to discredit anyone we cannot expect to win this war when we are being represented by unpaid, unpolished volunteers from the local rod & gun club while the opposition parades their PHD packing propaganda pushers from one news media to the next.
    SpottedPony out....and do I ever hope I’m still able to hunt grouse next year.

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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    Do leg hold traps result in a slow death? If so, that’s bad right?
    When in doubt, just pin it.

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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    In part of that article I read above it states that another controversial hunting regulation is the suggested cougar pursuit only season. Does this not already exist???? I thought it was already a thing

  6. #36
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    Leg holds are not a killing trap..the trapper dispatches the held animal. Look in the regs for max hours for checking trap. They are useful for the express reason you can release caught animal so if you did catch a persons pet it might be a bit traumatized but alive and not much worse for the experience. Kill traps are a dead pooch. having had dogs dive off the rd into a killing set and escape the experience by a thin hair....leg holds are a much better option near human activities.
    It is well to try and journey ones road and to fight with the air.Man must die! At worst he can die a little sooner." (H Ryder Haggard)

  7. #37
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    There is nothing to worry about now. The state of Delaware has made it legal to choose your own race along with gender, our progressive government in Ottawa will soon bring this policy to bare in Canada under the guise of fairness for all. We will then be able to choose to be identified as whatever race our values align to. If one chooses to identify as Indigenous the antis will not be able to take away your constitutionally guaranteed rights to harvest in your traditional manner. Best bet is to vote Liberal federally, I know he has my vote now.

  8. #38
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    Quote Originally Posted by proguide66 View Post
    Thankfully they are trying to get something banned which doesn't exist , whew !
    What SHOULD be legal is to take them to court for using misleading dishonest content with out proof of claims.
    Just look at the American election to see how thats going.

  9. #39
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    Quote Originally Posted by SpottedPony View Post
    This article was sent to me at 6 this morning and I’m amazed at the inaccuracies in it but then the perpetual spew of lies is expected considering the organization the author is connected to. Knowing a little bit about what goes into proposed regulation changes, the debating and consideration as to why a season is warranted and why a change may be proposed I would suggest that Ms Pickett stick with what she’s good at.....milking the uneducated public.
    We have opened ourselves up to these anti hunting, funding scamists. They know hunters are fragmented, they know hunters have a weak voice and presently they are doing their best to discredit hunters as hard as they can to the non hunting public that rides in the middle.
    In no shape or form does Ms Pickett, Tommy Knowles or their predecessor Paul Watson really care about the so called wildlife they are/were out to save, this battle is entirely about the almighty dollar.
    Every man and woman in this province that values our privilege to hunt had better sit back and think about where we are going. We’ve got 2 choices, we can pull our heads out of the sand, put forth the message that we are conservationists with the best interests of wildlife and the land that wildlife thrives in as our highest held value....or we can throw out the image that we are first cousins to a Neanderthal that wants to turn Bambi into gut stuffing.
    We need some sharp players to step up to the plate, we need an organization that we can all gather under with no past mistrust and we need an untouchable message to be put forth.
    At present we do not have this and not meaning to discredit anyone we cannot expect to win this war when we are being represented by unpaid, unpolished volunteers from the local rod & gun club while the opposition parades their PHD packing propaganda pushers from one news media to the next.
    SpottedPony out....and do I ever hope I’m still able to hunt grouse next year.
    i couldn’t agree more. The anti hunting movement is well funded, hires professionals and is consistently kicking are ass at each and every turn. Until we unite under one banner as “ hunters” from all walks of life and all geographical locations We will continue to lose. Whatever that organization may look like we need to move fast, be it the wild sheep initiative, back country or a host of others. We need to unite and hire our own professional PR firm to show case the great work all of us do for wildlife and conservation. If we don’t , rest assured we will lose this hunting heritage we so deeply enjoy and cherish

  10. #40
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    Re: Think the Anti's are Busy??

    I find it interesting the silence on this board as of late. You have been playing with these same antis for several years now on this board. As a matter of fact many were invited here by so called hunters. Hell, you boys even invited their leader, Weaver. What did you expect was going to happen? Sleeping with the devil hurts don't it?

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