Can any one tell me, anecdotally is fine, how many whitetail were taken in regions 3,5 and 7 say 40 50, or even 60 years ago? Basing opinion of what has happened on the last 10 to 20 is just to short of a time frame to establish a pattern. If I look at the old maps they are certainly in more areas they used to be. How many whitetails did some of the more experienced hunters on this forum kill around 100 mile house and Merrit in the 70s; how many did your parents kill in the 50s? To say there has been a collapse in the last 10 years could be very misleading if they didn't really appear in any numbers until 20 or 25 years ago. They may have expanded to into areas that traditionally couln't have supported them and now are returning to a more traditional range.