Originally Posted by
Bugle M In
Sometimes I just wonder if the real underlying issue is that we have just "over developed" in some many parts/regions" of BC now, and we are starting to see the reals problems from that now.
Look at the "Cull" issue that I now be brought up in Wine Country, by the growers etc.
When you think about it, these deer have to go somewhere come winter, and they can't just be expected to survive "up top" in the snow belt all winter long.
So, where can they go....nothing but down to their "traditional wintering grounds"...but, now it Vineyards and Golf Courses, and all sorts of development now.
And now, we are going to possibly "Cull them"???, because they are now a nuisance??
Funny thing is, it kind of reminds me about the Zone X Elk in the EK.
It's already been shown that these elk are going back up to the high country come summer, and although the reason are unknown, much speculation is on the possibility that they are avoiding wolves etc.
But again, zone x was really nothing more then a "Cull" as well, and was basically brought up due to "land owners"
(maybe ICBC as well?) complaints etc.
All these beasts are trying to do is survive, especially come winter, and to avoid Preds.
So, are we doing to great disservice now to these creatures now, by not having better habitat, and that we have basically over run their grounds?
Are we basically reducing them to nothing because of that?, not hunting.
If that is the real problem, then I just don't see a 1 MD limit going to help anything, IMO.
We aren't really dealing with the true issue of why their numbers aren't increasing.
Yes we have wolves all over, and they are an issue, but is the real issue that there just is no where for them to go any longer??...wolves up high, and human sprawl down low.
Just remember, we don't build towns and cities on the highest mountain peaks, we build them in the areas with the least snow fall.
I think the real issue is just "too many people" in the province now (not hunters, as that hasn't changed).
When you think about it, how many people lived in this province in 1970, a million?, and how many hunted, maybe 10%, so 100,000.
Now the province is what, doubled or tripled in population, yet we have the same hunter #'s today, so that hasn't increased, and if anything, what % of hunters do we have today per population here, maybe 5%?
So, I ask myself, is it all for nothing when it comes to Regs such as this?
Even if they increased, are they just to be culled off anyways?
Can we actually "grow more deer/ungulates", and will they have somewhere to go?
What is "urban sprawl" going to be in 20 years time??how many more people??
What are we doing to "ensure" that these creatures have somewhere to go come winter time, and not be in
"People's Way"????