Mule Deer Restrictions

[walks with deer]

ouch sad story...that said i have some sweet picks of the existing herd

[LBM]

are you kidding?

About what

[Walking Buffalo]

You're right.

As Hebblewhite explained, with habitat as a limiting factor, deer populations find their own equilibrium and tend to adjust to the capacity of the range. Save 100 deer by eliminating the preds, and 100 deer die of other causes.

Habitat, habitat, habitat.

Equating this predation as fully compensatory to "other causes" in a population at carrying capacity leaves an open door not described.

Those 100 deer could have been taken by hunters, IF wolves were removed from the equation.

[Ourea]

Let me tell you a story. IIRC was around 98/99 the local chapter of the RMEF raised funds to transplant elk from Jasper to help the struggling little herd in the Tum Tum. All money was from public. No government funds were needed. Everything was proceeding nicely and the elk were captured, penned, giving the proper medical bill of health and were about to be loaded into trucks headed for the Tum. Then some government worker put the breaks on. Nope, they would not allow it. Red tape. The elk were still loaded onto trucks but went elsewhere. The local money raised was still spent, just not on our local herd. The unofficial reasoning was that they thought it would just be a feeding program for the wolves. Sooo, a year goes by and the locals are pissed with all the money they raised going elsewhere. So a new project is conceived. Lets do something local. Lets do some habitat enhancement. Not much could be done elk related but the Rmef said we aren't just about elk, we support all animals. So a plan to do a prescribed burn on Green Mountain in Wells Gray to help moose and mule deer became the local focus. All the money needed was raised privately. No government money was requested. There were professional wildfire volunteers, there was industry giving equipent and expertise, there were consultations with all stakeholders. Everyone, including local residents and even Green orgs were for it. And then, some government worker put the breaks on it. Couldn't happen. Why? Because they had come up with a similiar plan years previous using HCTF money and were turned down. So if they couldn't do it, no one can. Funding was there. All faded away and the local chapter of the Rmef ceased.

So your solution is to analyze and complain?

[horshur]

So your solution is to analyze and complain?

So who are you to think you can beat bureaucracy?

[dana]

So your solution is to analyze and complain?

Who is complaining? I tell you a story to relates to your $$$=results comment. This is not complaining. This is more a cautionary tale but you can take it as you will.

[Weatherby Fan]

Some light reading on predators.......

the-deadly-truth-most-dont-know-about-mountain-lions

[LBM]

are you kidding?

again about what.

[Islandeer]

again about what.

You guys are all right, problem is while Nero fiddles Rome is burning.

The antis are winning while we squabble. We need to put this energy into a singular plan.

Call it a Hunt plan.

[Ourea]

So who are you to think you can beat bureaucracy?

The geriatric crowd on HBC mostly analyzes and complains.
Tit for Tat BS.
That will never influence change.

There is an awareness building outside the hunting community.
Wildlife needs to become a priority in this province, that message is being heard.

Should those spreading that message and trying to create ways to pay for it just quit?