Cranbrook Whities

[rocksteady]

gcreek may have an issue with that...

Doubt it.. he supports enhancement burning

[Salty]

The locals I know won't even take one and they bascially pack up after the doe season starts due to the increased traffic

Sounds like about anywhere that holds deer in the southern interior to me. As soon as all bucks are open plus wt does the parades begin. Plus October is THE traditional month to hunt it always has been, someone should make a reality tv show about Thanksgiving long weekend! lmao. I do my utmost best to avoid hunting weekends in October and I totally disappear from some of the good spots I know until November. Don't want to tip my hand to all the traffic and the decrease to about 10% of October's traffic come November is easy on the nerves.

[hunter1947]

So what you're telling us Wayne is that the years of 4 point only mule deer regulations in the EK haven't helped mule deer populations.

And I agree. That's why we should be burning as much as possible and lobbying for more funding to do so.

You hit the nail dead center Pat..

[hunter1947]

There are so many other reasons why the mule deer are getting lower in numbers its not all about habitat but habitat is one big reason why the numbers have declined..

[LBM]

IMO the decline started back in the 80s so was wondering if you could show the yearly population data from the 80s on mule deer in region 4 just the EK stuff if you want and by MU, since each MU is different.
If you could also show the data showing what MUs people were hunting in at that time would be great as well, for see more hunters now then back then as well.
Thanks

So guessing there is insufficient scientific data to show or back any thing up other then your usual comment there use to be nearly twice as many hunters.

[Fisher-Dude]

I have hunter numbers for mule deer, for region 4.

1986 - 1990:

10623
9857
10231
11980
11351


For the period 2012 - 2016:

6457
5982
5656
6366
6777

Looks to be just about half the number of hunters now as there were then.

[horshur]

I have hunter numbers for mule deer, for region 4.

1986 - 1990:

10623
9857
10231
11980
11351


For the period 2012 - 2016:

6457
5982
5656
6366
6777

Looks to be just about half the number of hunters now as there were then.

Is that hunters who hunted in region 4 or hunters that reside in region 4. Is the data from purchased licence or hunter card survey? What are the % accuracy.

[HarryToolips]

You should hunt blacktails in region 2 probably about the same odds of success. White tails in 4 and 8 are way down and it is the governments fault by allowing the stupid seasons and bag limits. I live in region 8 and took 1 trip to the kettle this year and its worse than last year and put the nail in the coffin for me on that spot. I shot a 3x3 white tail outside of skookumchuck last year on our hunt which was great eating but realistically 10 days there and we saw half of what we saw the previous years. You may have better luck in creston area but its dwindling there as well. If you dont live in an area or work there its a waste of gas if you actually care about success. If its just about the trip pick somewhere new every year and change the scenery.

Where I went in region 4-04 this year I saw lots of WT....contrary to many on this site, over the last several years I have kept close tabs on WT numbers from what I can personally observe, and I have personally observed the numbers to be stable...trail cams don't lie, in heavily pressured areas I find they go nocturnal quick..just my observations..

[Liveforthehunt]

Where I went in region 4-04 this year I saw lots of WT....contrary to many on this site, over the last several years I have kept close tabs on WT numbers from what I can personally observe, and I have personally observed the numbers to be stable...trail cams don't lie, in heavily pressured areas I find they go nocturnal quick..just my observations..

Maybe you are new to hunting only within the past 5-10 years .?.. because yes sir trail cams don't lie ... I even have a few set up in your neck of the woods on the other side of the lake around that fire and I saw deer but not 20-30 a day not once this year

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Wasn't the intent of the two doe limit to reduce the whitetail population?

Mission accomplished so now it's been reduced back to one doe.

Very high populations of whitetail among struggling mule deer numbers isn't good for mule deer.

SSS