Ban of guns in urban areas

[IslandWanderer]

Hey Dan,

have any hunting pics?

People used to say I wasn’t a hunter either.

[Fisher-Dude]

Not a troll just sick and tired of the ignorant bull that gets thrown around and nobody calls out.

He's practicing on a puppet.

You're next. Let the good times roll.

[Fisher-Dude]

Hey Dan,

have any hunting pics?

He and Jazzy are hunting partners.

But they keep finding Shutterstock watermarks on the pics they want to show you.

[Ohwildwon]

People used to say I wasn’t a hunter either.

Yawn...

[antlerking]

Dug addition = mental illness get the dealers eliminate the supply, save the addicts,treatment 75% of murders with guns solved stop trying to take mine and every other law abiding citizens guns

[caddisguy]

You shouldn't have to take responsibility for a theirs action but suggesting your least valuable possession is worth more than their life is offside.

I don't think he said that. That was from my post saying people should go to jail for armed robbery or b&e, addict or not. Being an addict gets a free pass. Police can't hold them because of potential discomfort of not getting their next hit.

It's hard to babyproof the planet for criminals at the expense of non criminals. Would I be mean to say we should not cover the earth's surface with nerf padding to protect someone who steals my car and might drive recklessly?

While I agree we should ween addicts off a couple days before their jail time (ie: prevent from dying, though anything short of permanent physical harm from withdrawal will help them make better choices) we must acknowledge self determination plays a role. B&e should get someone locked up for 6 months at least. Armed robbery, 5 years at least. Currently both are de-facto legal.

There are consequences to my actions. Heck my wife tumbled off a ledge head over heels several times down to the next ledge. Messed up her back something awful and has been out of action for the most part. I accept the consequences of the back country. Why can't a criminal accept potential consequences of armed robbery? If there is an increase in crime, it's a directly result of this kind of cultural enablement.

If we babyproof the planet for addicts, can I get an elevator ride and ziplines through my BT spot? After all I'm a BT addict. Can I rob Cabelas and get a free pass!? Lol

[Ohwildwon]

Dug addition = mental illness get the dealers eliminate the supply, save the addicts,treatment 75% of murders with guns solved stop trying to take mine and every other law abiding citizens guns

Nothing like solving the worlds problems in one sentence!

[Danny_29]

People used to say I wasn’t a hunter either.

This stupid site hates pictures I've got a good one of my Pudelpointer and some pheasants

[antlerking]

Ok will just keep treating the symptoms then getting to the problem

[Jagermeister]

According to a survey conducted by Ekos Research Associates for the Canadian Press, 69% of the respondents agreed with the statement " " I think that there should be a strict ban on guns in urban areas". "
Automated landline and cell phone survey - 2287 respondents
Poll was conducted between Nov 10-30
Highest support in Quebec with 76% - lowest in Alberta at 48%
Ekos seems to think that there is support "across the political spectrum for restrictions that are limited to urban areas. Ekos goes on to say - "86 per cent of respondents who identified themselves as Liberals, 56 per cent of Conservatives and 75 per cent of New Democrats backed an urban ban."
86% of 2287 = 1969 Liberals
100% - 86% = 14% (320) of the remaining 2287
Now giving Ekos the benefit of doubt
56% of 320 = 179 and
75% of 320 = 245
Wait a minute, 245+179=424
424+1969=2393 which is 106 more than 2287 and that represents an error of 4.75% which is more than double their " is considered accurate within 2.1 percentage points "


Here's the article in its entirety for those that cannot click a link,
The vast majority of Canadians favours a total ban on guns in urban areas, a new poll suggests.
According to the poll, conducted by Ekos Research Associates for The Canadian Press, 69 per cent of those surveyed agreed with the statement "I think that there should be a strict ban on guns in urban areas."
Support was highest in Quebec at 76 per cent and lowest in Alberta at 48 per cent.
The federal Liberals are currently at work on legislation to follow through on campaign commitments to tighten up restrictions on guns, though an earlier suggestion a new bill could be introduced before the end of the year now seems unlikely.
The Liberal plans don't involve any kind of total ban and, indeed, no political party has ever suggested the idea, noted Ekos president Frank Graves.
But widespread support for the concept suggests there's room to simply stop tinkering with existing gun laws and put in place something more ambitious, he said.
"I'm not saying the operationalization wouldn't be complex but this isn't a moon shot and it's been done in other jurisdictions," Graves said.
"I think Canadians would settle for something close — it wouldn't have to be a strict ban, but anything to move the needle here."
Guns are not involved in the vast majority of crimes in Canada but there have been increases in gun-related violence.
Statistics released last month showed that 2016 was the first time since 2012 that shootings were the most common method of homicide in Canada. Statistics Canada also reported that 2016 was the third year in a row that the number of firearm-related homicides rose.
The agency also reported last month that 587 people took their own lives with the use of a firearm in 2014, up from 544 the year before.
A standard response to why government doesn't go further to crack down on guns is politics and the perception that urban Canadians view the issue far differently than rural dwellers, who use guns to hunt for food or protect themselves in remote regions beyond the every-day reach of law enforcement.
The political divide has played itself out repeatedly during national debates on gun control. In 2011, two NDP MPs from Thunder Bay, Ont., were disciplined when they broke ranks and voted in favour of the Conservative government's legislation to repeal the gun registry.
During the Conservative leadership race earlier this year, a clear position on firearms-related policy was a must-have for candidates, many of whom actively courted firearms enthusiasts.
But the Ekos survey suggests there's support across the political spectrum for restrictions that are limited to urban areas — 86 per cent of respondents who identified themselves as Liberals, 56 per cent of Conservatives and 75 per cent of New Democrats backed an urban ban.
The automated land line and cell phone survey of 2,287 Canadians was carried out Nov. 10-30 and is considered accurate within 2.1 percentage points, 19 times out of 20.
In 2015, the federal Liberals made several campaign commitments related to firearms. They've fulfilled some, including a revamp of a national advisory board and increased funding to the provinces to address gun violence.
That money was announced last month at an event in Surrey, B.C., where a federal by-election is underway in a community that has a long-standing issue with guns and gangs.
The Liberals also pledged to require enhanced background checks for anyone seeking to buy a gun, and prospective buyers must also show a license. Those who sell guns would, among other things, be required to keep an inventory of stock and sales.
Their platform also promised to get more weapons off the streets by strengthening controls on handguns and assault weapons.
A group that includes family members of women killed at a shooting at the Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal in 1989, as well as survivors of a shooting at Montreal's Dawson College in 2006 and one at a mosque in Quebec City last year gathered on Parliament Hill last week to press the Liberals to commit to a firm timeline for the changes.
Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said work is underway on related legislation.