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  1. #31
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    Re: And now we know............

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher-Dude View Post
    Alexandra won't get many people to click the donate button if she can't use shock to sell her crusade.

    If there's one thing that will open bedwetters' wallets, it's the sight of blood.

    Where does the blood go from the millions of fish chewed apart by sea lions every year?
    Once again you are missing the bigger picture????

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    Re: And now we know............

    The processors its an easy fix ... boil the run off then filter it. The problem still will ly with the actual farms. They need to go on land, boil and filter the run off.

    To exspensive ? To bad ...
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    Re: And now we know............

    Quote Originally Posted by Chopper View Post
    The processors its an easy fix ... boil the run off then filter it. The problem still will ly with the actual farms. They need to go on land, boil and filter the run off.

    To exspensive ? To bad ...
    boiling/filtering = energy= Prohibitively expensive

    Thats been my point from the beginning; when you account for all the externalities the fish farms produce, they can't come close, economically, to a sustainably managed wild fishery. They'd have to be charging a premium over wild caught at that point, and from there would likely fade into oblivion. The quality sucks. It's completely outside their business model of undercutting the market for salmon. Our politicians have brought them in under terms that represent a massive conflict to Bc's interests, both economic and social.

    im not saying farmed vs wild are necessarily exclusive of each other. Just that the terms in which the farms operate now, are ridiculous. They need to be brought to heel, and new best practices formulated based on the Norwegian experience.

  4. #34
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    Re: And now we know............

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher-Dude View Post
    Alexandra won't get many people to click the donate button if she can't use shock to sell her crusade.

    If there's one thing that will open bedwetters' wallets, it's the sight of blood.

    Where does the blood go from the millions of fish chewed apart by sea lions every year?
    nevermind Alexandra. You exhaustively state that you want to have wildlife managed with science. Read the study I posted. Read the Cohen report. That's the science.

    The sea lions ripping up wild salmon, isn't spreading ISA, and PRV. That's the primary concern of you've been paying attention. That's of course true, until the wild stocks completely flatline, and they start ripping open the nets holding the virus riddled Atlantics. If that isn't already happening.

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    Re: And now we know............

    Quote Originally Posted by finaddict View Post
    Sounds like a great idea. I would assume that the intent is to have the processor pay for the disposal. A Renderer will not pick up a product and process it if it is not economically viable so the processor would have to pay for pick up, just like any other disposal service. Thus adding further to the costs of processing, which would be passed forward to the retailer and ultimately the consumer, thus adding to the price of farmed atlantic mush.
    this got me thinking:

    in in a land based model, they could conceibly create impoundments to contain the waste. Like tailings. But then again, in a land based, closed system, you'd probably not have an issue with infectious waste in the first place.

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