Biggest problem with that whole area was after they closed R5 from the 10th-20th of Nov.
Way more guys in there because of that, and then yes, the landscape has changed drastically up on the plateau
do to that "fairly liberal clear cut logging up there", which definitely made a few changes to the deer movement
patterns from years ago, and wolves that didn't exist to my knowledge back then.
Deer are there, but as Nov 10th comes, its quite the gong show at times, and not just on the roads, lots of guys trying to hike in, yet still run into people doing the same.