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    End Moose Hunt

    Just read this on MSN News that Chief Joe Alphonse is calling for a end of the moose hunt this year.

    I am wondering if this if there is any scientific research done to support his wish?

    WILLIAMS LAKE, B.C. - A First Nations chief is calling on the British Columbia government to halt the moose hunt this year, arguing the historic wildfire season has caused enough trauma to the species.
    Tl'etinqox Chief Joe Alphonse said the flames that have charred thousands of square kilometres of habitat in the province's Interior and hunting will only further endanger the moose population.
    "Anyone who chooses to point a gun to a moose in the Chilcotin is contributing to the eventual problem of having no moose in the Chilcotin down the road," he said.
    The largest fire ever recorded in the province's history at more than 5,210 square kilometres in size is still burning across the Chilcotin plateau, an area about 60 kilometres northwest of Williams Lake.
    The province as a whole has seen a record-breaking 11,700 square kilometres scorched since April 1 and more than 150 fires continue to burn.
    Alphonse said local crews had discovered two dead moose floating in a lake in an area that had been charred by fire.
    But the province's forests ministry said in a statement that there remains "only a handful of reports" of wildlife killed, including one black bear, some wild horses in the Chilcotin and a couple of moose in the Cariboo region.
    Forests Minister Doug Donaldson said in an interview that none of the 40 radio collared cow moose in the region were killed due to fires, but determining the extent of the wildlife devastation is imperative.
    "We've already instituted some tools over concerns of moose populations and we're working closely with the Tsilqot'in national government to estimate and get a better handle and assessment of the impact that occurred because of these fires on wildlife," he said.
    The provincial government issued 2,423 limited entry hunt permits for moose this year, which the forest ministry said is a reduction from previous years.
    The forests ministry said roughly 60 per cent of moose hunting licences issued in the Cariboo region, which includes the Chilcotin, are set aside for First Nations, with the remaining number allocated to other resident hunters and guide outfitters.
    "It is important to note that not all licensed hunters are successful, and while harvest rates vary year-to-year, on average, only one-third of (limited entry hunt) authorizations are successful," the ministry said.
    It added that no licensed moose hunting was issued in September in areas most affected by wildfire, and many areas of the Cariboo region west of the Fraser River were already closed off as of 2016.
    Many Crown land areas throughout the province also remain restricted to the public as fire crews continue their response and mop-up.
    "If these restrictions are lifted before the end of the fall hunting season, wildlife biologists will reassess the situation to ensure the appropriate regulations are in place to protect wildlife," the ministry said.
    But Alphonse said he's concerned about policing these restrictions, adding that First Nations are still fighting fires and don't have the resources to closely monitor any illegal hunting activity on their territory.
    Alphonse confirmed that he has been working with provincial officials. He said he wants First Nations closely involved in any wildlife studies going forward and for the province to commit to conservation efforts.
    "Why do we keep doing the same thing over and over and over again when all we see around us is animals going extinct?" he said. "Somebody has got to step up to the plate and take some leadership and try something different for a change and hopefully this government will be that change.

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    Hmmm 2423 moose hunting licenses in Cariboo..60 % allocated to FN. .=1,453.80 scraps left over to hunters, guides..pathetic.
    3% is fn...seems pretty fair..3% of populating is fn..they should get 3% of tags..minus 2 tags per every cow moose shot.

    2423 tags..3%.....73 tags

    Plus plenty shot on qt"
    Srupp

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    You have to admit Steven that the idea does have merit.

    As for scientific evidence...... a lot of that can be skewed to what govt prefers to do also.

    We "anecdotals" just aren't seeing many moose in the whole Chilcotin. Big change from a short 30 years ago when it was common to see 40 a day if you were out in the bush.

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    Like your thinking Steven. I was just thinking the same.

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    Not sure if this is the final answer but if the decision is made to shut it down I will abide by it if the season is shut down to all groups no exceptions whatsoever no if ands or buts.If anyone is caught hunting or harvesting a moose all parties involved should be fined,have all equipment including firearms and vehicles that were used confiscated and moose hunting rights taken away no exceptions for anyone or group.Not to be a hardass but that is the way I am feeling about it,tired of being told I am the problem when I harvest one moose every 5-10 years!

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    So shut it down where exactly? Everywhere? A lot if not most of region 5 was not burned.

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    I'd happily stop hunting moose just as long as all FN stopped hunting them as well. Of course that will never happen. They would never stop hunting moose.

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    Gotta say I really like Srupp's thinking on the matter. Sure would be nice if I'd stop seeing so many cows being taken.

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    stop the cow shooting .It's amassing what this will do for the moose population . This chief is using this for the lack of moose .nice try

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    Re: End Moose Hunt

    Ya right, if he can actually control some of his members!!
    If he feels there is a problem, he doesn't have to go any further then to look at his own people to see why there is a problem.
    As said, stop shooting cows...and maybe start reporting their annual harvest for once.
    He should start there, before he goes any further.

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