chinook and socks closed on the fraser, what if

[bloody bellies]

I fished pinks in the fraser for years and never caught a chinook of sockeye as bycatch. It is all about selective fishing methods.

you are correct, but 95% of the guys on the banks of the Fraser don't selective fish because they don't know how, so there is still a 95% by catch, then out of that 95% how many kill a sockeye because they don't know how to identify the difference. There will be by catch I guarantee it.

[russm]

Save on foods has fresh sockeye on special. Where is that coming from?

I just got in from save on, an average size "sale priced" sockeye was $60 lol

[Boner]

Next year is the big year for sockeye.

[Hublocker]

commercial and FN over fishing would be my guess, if its bad enough to close it for the sport fishery it should be closed for everyone.

Which commercial fishing on Fraser River sockeye are you referring to?

This year's?

Zero.

The brood year four years ago?

Zero


Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) Integrated fisheries Management Plan for 2017/18 indicates that the 2017 sockeye return to the Fraser River has a 50 percent chance of reaching 4,432,000 fish.


The Pacific Salmon Commission reported that in 2013, the brood year for the 2017 Fraser sockeye run, returns of adult sockeye totaled 4,233,000 fish, more than two and a half times the brood year abundance of 1,637,000 fish in 2009, but otherwise the lowest return on this cycle since 1965. Divided into management groups, adult returns totaled 182,000 Early Stuart, 361,000 Early Summer, 2,880,000 Summer and 809,000 Late-run sockeye.

In 2013 Catches of Fraser River sockeye salmon in all fisheries totaled 531,000 fish, including 411,000 fish caught by Canada, 20,000 fish caught by the U.S. and 100,000 fish caught by test fisheries. Most of the Canadian catch occurred in First Nations fisheries (407,000 fish). In Washington, commercial catches totaled 20,000 Fraser sockeye, with almost all caught in Treaty Indian fisheries.

[bloody bellies]

Which commercial fishing on Fraser River sockeye are you referring to?

This year's?

Zero.

The brood year four years ago?

Zero


Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) Integrated fisheries Management Plan for 2017/18 indicates that the 2017 sockeye return to the Fraser River has a 50 percent chance of reaching 4,432,000 fish.


The Pacific Salmon Commission reported that in 2013, the brood year for the 2017 Fraser sockeye run, returns of adult sockeye totaled 4,233,000 fish, more than two and a half times the brood year abundance of 1,637,000 fish in 2009, but otherwise the lowest return on this cycle since 1965. Divided into management groups, adult returns totaled 182,000 Early Stuart, 361,000 Early Summer, 2,880,000 Summer and 809,000 Late-run sockeye.

In 2013 Catches of Fraser River sockeye salmon in all fisheries totaled 531,000 fish, including 411,000 fish caught by Canada, 20,000 fish caught by the U.S. and 100,000 fish caught by test fisheries. Most of the Canadian catch occurred in First Nations fisheries (407,000 fish). In Washington, commercial catches totaled 20,000 Fraser sockeye, with almost all caught in Treaty Indian fisheries.

Hmmm 2013 FN caught 407,000 socks, was the Fraser open to the sport fisher that year, Question, when does fishing for sockeye or Chinook or for any fish for that matter become a "Staple Food Source" this is why FN are allowed to fish when others are not , correct? well ive been fishing for 42 years and have always eaten the fish I catch so is this not considered my staple food? Why am I not allowed to fish when the FN are? Maybe someone in government could answer that 1

[russm]

Which commercial fishing on Fraser River sockeye are you referring to?

This year's?

Zero.

The brood year four years ago?

Zero


Fisheries and Oceans Canada (DFO) Integrated fisheries Management Plan for 2017/18 indicates that the 2017 sockeye return to the Fraser River has a 50 percent chance of reaching 4,432,000 fish.


The Pacific Salmon Commission reported that in 2013, the brood year for the 2017 Fraser sockeye run, returns of adult sockeye totaled 4,233,000 fish, more than two and a half times the brood year abundance of 1,637,000 fish in 2009, but otherwise the lowest return on this cycle since 1965. Divided into management groups, adult returns totaled 182,000 Early Stuart, 361,000 Early Summer, 2,880,000 Summer and 809,000 Late-run sockeye.

In 2013 Catches of Fraser River sockeye salmon in all fisheries totaled 531,000 fish, including 411,000 fish caught by Canada, 20,000 fish caught by the U.S. and 100,000 fish caught by test fisheries. Most of the Canadian catch occurred in First Nations fisheries (407,000 fish). In Washington, commercial catches totaled 20,000 Fraser sockeye, with almost all caught in Treaty Indian fisheries.

I just meant in general, not this year specifically, I'm sure all the commercial netting has had
ore effect than sport fishing ever could.

[ACB]

Save on foods has fresh sockeye on special. Where is that coming from?

Alaska! Our IGA said their Sockeye came from Alaska . B.C. fish intercepted by our american neighbour's.

[tubby]

Boner, FN have had their nets out of the water for a week now.However prior to this starting in febuary they had daily openings from Yale to the Fraser mouth. Not to mention the illegal netting that happens every night....
Younwant to see the runs rebound? Keep the inriver netting closed!

[Boner]

Boner, FN have had their nets out of the water for a week now.However prior to this starting in febuary they had daily openings from Yale to the Fraser mouth.

Younwant to see the runs rebound? Keep the inriver netting closed!

That's Sto:Lo area. From Emory Creek and flowing south from there. I'd like to see them rebound myself. If people stopped buying fish from FN's, it would slow down the catch rate.

[tubby]

Actually Spuzzum creek and below...
Ppl wont stop buying. The black market with the Vancouver restaurant industry is always growing.....