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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by bighornbob View Post
    ........There is a good reason that old saying is so true “The first ram you kill will probably be born the year you start sheep hunting.” That means its probably going to take you 7-8 years of sheep hunting before you kill a ram. Not sure who coined this term but they did it to be honest about the hardships of sheep hunting not to keep new hunters out of the mountains.......
    Likely coined in a time before the interweb was discovered, and before hunt clubs became so popular. Teknolodging has lots of info available, game counts and habitat maps and harvest stats can be had with a few key strokes
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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Perhaps as an indicator of where things are going, Gov is presently recommending changes to Sheep hunts in Reg 4. Closing LEH and moving some GOS MU's to LEH.

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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by twoSevenO View Post
    why don't they publish the numbers? It's mandatory inspection on all of them, isn't it? So they must have the full count.
    The numbers are published. Just need to know where to find them. If you call the Regional Biologist, you can probably find out where that information can be found.
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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by J_T View Post
    Perhaps as an indicator of where things are going, Gov is presently recommending changes to Sheep hunts in Reg 4. Closing LEH and moving some GOS MU's to LEH.

    I hear that you BC hunters are causing severe genetic and phenotypic selection in both Bighorn and Thinhorn sheep, thus the need to further restrict the slaughter.

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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    J-T and WB, letting the fly dap softly............
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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Good point, the preceding comment is hilarious if one "passed" Bio. 100 or even high school biology.......

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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by boxhitch View Post
    J-T and WB, letting the fly dap softly............
    Someone is swallowing the bait.
    Including the BCWF?

    Harvest Regulations and Artificial Selection on Horn Size in Male Bighorn Sheep


    http://marco.recherche.usherbrooke.c...eveldJWM11.pdf

    ^ BC Kootenay based study. See advised hunting closures and further restrictive regulations/allowable harvest.


    And now the attack on Thinhorn hunters.
    Well, except perhaps the outfitters. Outfitters may be the saviour for Thinhorns from those depraved Residents....

    Changes in horn size of Stone’s sheep over four decades correlate with trophy hunting pressure

    http://www.synergyecology.ca/saeword...Sheephorns.pdf




    And what about the fact Bighorns are being harvested at around 1/2 of the Allowable Harvest under current hunting regimes in many areas?
    The Plan clearly states that if under-utilization occurs, additional hunting opportunities will be implemented.
    But they are not....


    We fought ridiculously hard in Alberta to fight these anti-hunting genetic harm advocates, and are winning.
    It is sad to see BC ignoring what they are up to, quietly putting up with the incessant chipping away of hunting opportunities.

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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Walking Buffalo View Post
    I hear that you BC hunters are causing severe genetic and phenotypic selection in both Bighorn and Thinhorn sheep, thus the need to further restrict the slaughter.
    Source please.
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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Quote Originally Posted by Ltbullken View Post
    Source please.
    Already provided right above your request.

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    Re: GOS Sheep Hunt

    Not sure of your point. Citing a scientific paper that has nothing to do with regulation change.
    The paper is 7 years old, and no one has tried to run it up the pole in BC........or can you show different?

    And what about the fact Bighorns are being harvested at around 1/2 of the Allowable Harvest under current hunting regimes in many areas?
    The Plan clearly states that if under-utilization occurs, additional hunting opportunities will be implemented.
    But they are not....
    This is also confusing. IF the harvest is 1/2 of AH, is 'the regime' what is holding it back?
    If so then utilization is correct according to limits set.
    If the harvest is 1/2 of AH only due to lack of effort, then no need for reg changes to increase opportunity...........???

    You can't blend Alberta problems with BC problems.
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