Reg 3 Mule Deer Survey 2017

[Fisher-Dude]

cutting back on the october killing spree might help.

We just heard that the sex ratios are fine in the latest surveys.

Changing buck regs won't grow one more deer nor one more big deer.

Stick with the science.

[Wild one]

We just heard that the sex ratios are fine in the latest surveys.

Changing buck regs won't grow one more deer nor one more big deer.

Stick with the science.

Wont grow more deer agree 100% there

but it is proven you can manage for a higher % of mature deer

[Stone Sheep Steve]

Wont grow more deer agree 100% there

but it is proven you can manage for a higher % of mature deer

Yes. It's called LEH. Do we really need to go there?

[Wild one]

Yes. It's called LEH. Do we really need to go there?

Leh is one way and no I am not for it

it still comes down to restricting the number of bucks harvest

[boxhitch]

So restrict the opportunities for most hunters in the hopes of satisfying the few ?
There's a name for that.......

[Wild one]

So restrict the opportunities for most hunters in the hopes of satisfying the few ?
There's a name for that.......

nope not into that either

it don't matter too many fear change for anything to be supported. So BC will manage with the same style same tools.


I will only hope habitat enhancement goes through and helps improve numbers/quality

[Fisher-Dude]

Wont grow more deer agree 100% there

but it is proven you can manage for a higher % of mature deer

No it won't. Read the article referenced above.

[Wild one]

No it won't. Read the article referenced above.

Artical is about pt restrictions posted on this forum and this thread I do not support them

it is how ever effective reducing overall buck harvest LEH being the extreme but shorter GOS and lower bag limit is another tool. This would be negative to apply a shorter season throughout BC as it would be too much of a loss in opurtunity

like I said too much fear of change in BC so we will not see anything but GOS, LEH, or pt restriction. There is a huge variety of management systems in North America some better than BC some worse

to ignore the fact there is no other way to manage hunting in BC is merely close minded.


Hope we see possitive and a huge improvement in habitat enhancement because if things don't improve for mule deer we will see more restrictions. Unfortunately it will just be a new combination of the same tools as because BC will stick to the same style it has since I started hunting as a kid

crossing my fingers for mild winters and a huge increase in habitat improvement the ? Is how many years before we see results and will it be on a grand enough scale to see large improvement

[wideopenthrottle]

I still strongly believe we should all have to report our hunting activities and harvests when we put in for our new tags-doing it online makes this easy...
Some have said harvest has nothing to do with managing game but it is a variable that could help quantify the effects of the previous winter kill... especially combined with spring surveys ....ultimately, habitat is the final driver of deer pops but spring survival, habitat carrying capacity (that changes with forestry, development, road building or other large scale activity) fawn recruitment all work together to determine the best pop levels to optimize numbers as well as ratios. As noted before, 5000 under crowded well fed healthy breading does may produce perhaps as many as 10,000 fawns and high winter survival even in tough winters....in the same habitat if 10000 does was too many, they might be in poor health and have poor winter survival as well as producing less fawns than the 5000 health ones.....In this context the following year harvest success rates might help determine a more optimum (for deer herd health) number of deer and hunters can help with this a lot...by hunting more and killing more deer we may increase the number available the following year....This is the fundamental concept of sustainablity

[HarryToolips]

^^^bingo.....