New Sone Glacier Xcurve Frame

[twoSevenO]

READ more carefully, I bought mine when Dana, was running MR in Bozeman and was among their best customers as their then sales manager, Andrew Crow, told a guy I know there. I have used Dana's packs for almost 40 years and worked in the business, I would NOT *overpay*.

Now, after some issues with a defective product last August, I will never deal with GR and IF I were to buy another MR I KNOW where to get deals on gear that might amaze you.

That said, after inspection, I do not consider the current off-shore MR packs equal to the Bozo-made ones. So, call MR and order a Bozo-made one which they were offering and pay the price landed here and then get back to me.

JMHO, use whatever you prefer, I have no problem spending big coin on gear, but, detest spending my pensions on trendy electronics, trailcams and so on, YMMV.

OK. Point taken. I don't mind buying off-shore made products from a company that has decent quality control and warranty. That being said, i'm in the market for a new pack. I'll take any off-shore mystery ranch that you have off your hands, no problem. Let me alleviate you of that headache. You can PM me with what you have!

[BgBlkDg]

I AM considering selling my last Bozo-MR pack, but, what do you want in size and what is your waist and chest?

[hookedonblacktails]

This is BS. There are a lot of products out there that are being sold for way more than they are actually worth. Look at most luxury cars or designer clothes. While i don't doubt that this is an EXCELLENT pack, the point here is that there are other excellent packs that DON"T cost $900.

Comparing Swaro to a Tasco is no contest. Of course this $900 pack is better than an entry level Cabela's pack for $120. But is it that much better than mystery ranch or badlands to warrant an extra $400 cost on top? I don't think so.

Can you provide us with some links to some other packs that have a 130lb load rating and weigh 5lbs or less and have the volume of the larger SG packs? I too like to save money when I can.

[twoSevenO]

6'4" 210lb .... 43" chest, pant size 34. Let me know what you have and most importantly price

Would like something with a meat shelf and nice, sturdy hipbelt and shoulder harness. Don't care too much about pockets and all that.

[Andrewh]

Can you provide us with some links to some other packs that have a 130lb load rating and weigh 5lbs or less and have the volume of the larger SG packs? I too like to save money when I can.

I hear crickets from twoSeven0...

I would love for him to pull out some examples and backup what he says.

I echo you BgBlkDg regarding the cheaper price-point for MR bags and them being made overseas, people are just too fast to call BS on a situation just as twoSeven0 did in this thread without knowing actual FACTS.

Bottom line - a quality AND lightweight pack will cost you $, end of story.

[twoSevenO]

Can you provide us with some links to some other packs that have a 130lb load rating and weigh 5lbs or less and have the volume of the larger SG packs? I too like to save money when I can.

Can you provide me with some links that show a SG pack and frame come in at under 5lb? Because, i doubt a complete pack comes in at under 5lb.

[twoSevenO]

I hear crickets from twoSeven0...

I would love for him to pull out some examples and backup what he says.

I echo you BgBlkDg regarding the cheaper price-point for MR bags and them being made overseas, people are just too fast to call BS on a situation just as twoSeven0 did in this thread without knowing actual FACTS.

Bottom line - a quality AND lightweight pack will cost you $, end of story.

You keep talking as if I called the SG a crappy pack ....

[Andrewh]

Can you provide me with some links that show a SG pack and frame come in at under 5lb? Because, i doubt a complete pack comes in at under 5lb.

For sky archer 6200
-6200 mode weight - 4.55 Lbs without load shelf, 4.68 Lbs with load shelf (3 pc belt)
- 4000 Bivy mode weight - 4.18 Lbs without load shelf, 4.31 Lbs with load shelf (3 pc belt)
-150+ pound load rating (check Design page for load rating info)
-6200 cubic main bag and lid
-4000 cubic inches in bivy mode (no lid, compressed)

For sky Talus 6900
-6900 mode weight – 4.92 Lbs without load shelf, 5.05 Lbs with load shelf (3 pc belt)
- 4000 Bivy mode weight – 4.55 Lbs without load shelf, 4.68 with load shelf (3 pc belt)
-150+ pound load rating (check Design page for load rating info)
-6400 cubic main bag and 500 cubic lid
-4000 cubic inches in bivy mode (no lid, compressed)

[twoSevenO]

^ And where's the weight of the frame?

Xcurve Frame + 3 Piece Medium Belt + Sky 7400 bag ($664.00)

[Andrewh]

^ And where's the weight of the frame?

It will be similar to the above specs as those are with the older frame (heavier) but smaller bag.