Killers of BCs Moose

[338win mag]

the conservation shut down would be last resort, after residence first, then guides, then conservation

Yes, that would be correct, I think we are there now, I simply wanted to point out that there are options and there is no
"right that is absolute" and there are options. If the FN choose not to obey the law then they can/will be charged.
If the courts are reluctant to enforce with deterring penalties then thats another problem.

[Bonz]

ya they did that this past summer on the fraser for the salmon, worst sockeye return in 120 years. didnt stop them at all.
61 gill nets and 18 vessels seized in couple months, Sixteen individuals, all caught using gill nets, have been issued appearance notices and have subsequently been charged with offences under the fisheries act and are currently awaiting trial.


and i dont see them stopping for animals either

[bearvalley]

The big question is what did the 11 cow moose with the undiagnosed cause of death die from?
That being known could change the picture....big time.

[Bonz]

a start is enforcing. something that has been lacking that ive seen personaly, maybe once the court start seeing the change, then maybe the court system will change and not play favourtism also,,,kinda doubt that will ever happen though unfortunatly, to much politicly correct crap and our gov scared of the race card

[1899]

a start is enforcing. something that has been lacking that ive seen personaly, maybe once the court start seeing the change, then maybe the court system will change and not play favourtism also,,,kinda doubt that will ever happen though unfortunatly, to much politicly correct crap and our gov scared of the race card

http://bc.ctvnews.ca/first-nations-l...d-elk-1.575182

[Bonz]

ya ive seen that, and others. more on other news and not our bc news outlet though..lol
theirs a few, not enough though

[Rob Chipman]

Bonz::

"all the public see`s in that unlicened, is white man no being licenced and full on poacher."

I can't disagree. I'm just saying that now that the term has entered the conversation as a result of scientific studies on moose numbers we can start talking about it more easily. When you ask a non-hunter what it means and they say "some white guy without a license" you can ask "And not FN traditional harvest, which is currently not monitored, but which should be in order to help conservation?".

Same question can be asked to the reporter processing the story.

[Bonz]

Bonz::

"all the public see`s in that unlicened, is white man no being licenced and full on poacher."

I can't disagree. I'm just saying that now that the term has entered the conversation as a result of scientific studies on moose numbers we can start talking about it more easily. When you ask a non-hunter what it means and they say "some white guy without a license" you can ask "And not FN traditional harvest, which is currently not monitored, but which should be in order to help conservation?".

Same question can be asked to the reporter processing the story.

ya, at least its been slipped in their. time to make it clear on meanings now. and a few others i read in that and the moose recomendations, i see alot of open, vague info there on enforcing on their end

[horshur]

What needs to be done can't because of the public sentiment. Somehow this has to be changed I am at a loss as how to achieve this. It is a battle for common peoples minds.

[bearvalley]

What needs to be done can't because of the public sentiment. Somehow this has to be changed I am at a loss as how to achieve this. It is a battle for common peoples minds.

It's a tough one.
I beleive there's hope of something coming together but for it to work it'll take a lot more players at the table than the BCWF and government.
Some of the participants needed are either not fully on track or on their own agenda.