Thoughts on the shortage of moose.

[Corb89]

I hope i don't create any haters by opening up this can o' worms

Hypothetically if the MOE created a plan to recover the moose population in troubled areas, but required hunter cooperation.
would you give up your moose hunt today, so that your kids. your grandkids, could hunt them tomorrow.

As i write this i can see one problem cropping up. maybe, it works so well. that they decide to apply it to other game (not in need of it)
im just curious as to everyones thoughts

[squamishhunter]

If all ethnicities stopped, then yes.

[boxhitch]

NO
genereally it's not the regulated hunting that causes a population problem. The antler restrictions in place already protect the prime breeding stock, leaving a narrow window of opportunity for us to partake in.
Giving that up may save a couple of bulls , but won't help cow numbers or increase calf survival. Target bull:cow ratios are very conservative in BC, cows are likely all getting the sperm needed.

maybe, it works so well. that they decide to apply it to other game (not in need of it)

not a chance

[two-feet]

NO
genereally it's not the regulated hunting that causes a population problem. The antler restrictions in place already protect the prime breeding stock, leaving a narrow window of opportunity for us to partake in.
Giving that up may save a couple of bulls , but won't help cow numbers or increase calf survival. Target bull:cow ratios are very conservative in BC, cows are likely all getting the sperm needed.

not a chance

this is it. It is factors other than "regulated" hunting that have caused the decline in moose populations

[604ksmith]

I'd do anything to help out, depending on the severity.

I too doubt hunting is the largest cause of the issue, but I'd be willing to give that a try since that is likely the easiest. If that fails, then we take on the big hitters: land loss, excessive road creation, limited reclamation, ect...

[Xenomorph]

I'd do anything to help out, depending on the severity.

I too doubt hunting is the largest cause of the issue, but I'd be willing to give that a try since that is likely the easiest. If that fails, then we take on the big hitters: land loss, excessive road creation, limited reclamation, ect...

But wait, what are you calling moose depletion, the fact that your average roadie won't be able to bag a bull in the headlights of the truck? True enough, we have areas where the numbers are going down due to various factors, but lets face it, this comes across slightly like the "I've never been able to shoot a Sitka" talk that pops up, every now and then. Nope, you won't be able to if you're just driving around looking for one dumb one to stop.

Predator control, I bet that if every hunter here went out religiously and took out at least a couple, take your pick: bear, cougar, wolf, coyotes, you'd see the numbers creeping up. Of course, there will always be the average asshole that shoot at everything that moves, or the disgruntled few that will "not leave it for AHEM" ...but those are exceptions and won't essentially matter in the long run, if the vast majority of us do our job with the predator control.

[BgBlkDg]

But wait, what are you calling moose depletion, the fact that your average roadie won't be able to bag a bull in the headlights of the truck? True enough, we have areas where the numbers are going down due to various factors, but lets face it, this comes across slightly like the "I've never been able to shoot a Sitka" talk that pops up, every now and then. Nope, you won't be able to if you're just driving around looking for one dumb one to stop.

Predator control, I bet that if every hunter here went out religiously and took out at least a couple, take your pick: bear, cougar, wolf, coyotes, you'd see the numbers creeping up. Of course, there will always be the average asshole that shoot at everything that moves, or the disgruntled few that will "not leave it for AHEM" ...but those are exceptions and won't essentially matter in the long run, if the vast majority of us do our job with the predator control.

"the average roadie", "the average asshole"??????

Would these be legal BC citizen-hunters who may well be older, disabled and hunting in the only way they can?

I wonder, how many seasons of hardcore, active backpack Moose/Elk hunting have you done?

[Xenomorph]

"the average roadie", "the average asshole"??????

Would these be legal BC citizen-hunters who may well be older, disabled and hunting in the only way they can?

I wonder, how many seasons of hardcore, active backpack Moose/Elk hunting have you done?

Buddy I'm not talking about you or other gentlemen very much deserving the opportunity, I'm talking about lazy arse fellows like family members who won't step out of their trucks to walk into the bush. Didn't mean to touch a nerve there and I've got absolutely nothing against either way you choose to hunt.

I got 0 interest in being a righteous prick, my questions were just adding to the theoretical dialogue we're having.

Your input is much appreciated and point taken.

[Glenny]

No I wouldn't. They are already making it difficult for us with the LEH instead of adressing the real problems. IE Cougars, wolves and poachers.

[tigrr]

No I wouldn't. They are already making it difficult for us with the LEH instead of adressing the real problems. IE Cougars, wolves, grizzly and native poachers.

Fixed it for you. And if the natives keep shooting moose cows it kills 12 animals in a 10 year period. Stewarts of the land alright.