There's a article in the Vancouver Province Paper today with some quote's from the B.C. SPCA and others that they want E collars abolished from B.C. because their mean and inhumane and according to some doctor at the SPCA "The article doesn't state whether the doctor was a VET or not" E collars create all kinds of anguish and stress when they are being used on dogs for training purposes and as for using a bark collar on dogs just shouldn't be done. According to this doctor you should just reinforce good behavior to help stop the dog from barking it's fool head off! These people at the B.C. SPCA should of seen my old BL.Lab boy when he got his E collar on, he was just about wiggling out of his skin with excitement because he knew when he had to ware his collar something good was going to happen, like hunting up a bird or fetching up a bird or bumper. He didn't care it was just the best day ever. As far as a bark collar goes,god did he needed one . When he was riding in the back of my truck in his crate he needed his bark collar. You couldn't hear the radio for BOB BARKER going at it when he didn't have his bark collar on, and it was mournful. But when he had it on you could of swore there was a church mouse in the back of the truck. I didn't even have to turn it on anymore the last 6-7 years of his life, because he had been conditioned to the bark collar properly the same as his E Collar by a professional trainer that knew what they were doing. It just drives me crazy when the SPCA gets on something like this that they know nothing about.