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    Re: Site "C"

    Looks almost certain that CC, who vowed to get the project "past the point of no return" will get her way.

    Had Horgan wanted to kill the project he would have done it right after the report or at least totally halted the construction until the year end when the final decision is made.

    VS( Nov. 17,2017) -Also AW said he does not have inside information, but he is convinced the NDP will decide to keep building the dam, already under construction for more than two years.
    Earlier this month AW promised that he won't bring down Horgan & Co. if they choose to continue construction of the Site C dam.
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    Re: Site "C"

    Quote Originally Posted by mpotzold View Post


    Had Horgan wanted to kill the project he would have done it right after the report or at least totally halted the construction until the year end when the final decision is made.
    And how would you have felt if he would have done just that and then without any future revenue from the massive investments spent to date, your hydro bill would have to go up to pay for billions of dollars they just pissed in to the wind? And you'd be left behind the times with BC Hydro infrastructure instead of ahead of the times with no clear plan to get out the situation, and looking at a massive debt to pay off for nothing.
    its gonna take a life time to hunt and fish all this

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    Re: Site "C"

    Hmmm 2 sides. .already spent 2 years and 4 Billion dollars..we will get a dam
    Cancelled..no dam..4 Billion wasted..plus years of lawsuits, lawyers. ..etc.
    Certainly better than Ontario lack of affordable hydro .

    From the other side..
    Steven

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    Re: Site "C"

    "sunk costs" are a particularly potent fallacy when it comes to investment decisions. although i cant be sure that it's necessarily the case here, it's precisely this line of faulty reasoning that causes otherwise smart, rational people to stay in losing financial positions and regularly under-perform the market. while perseverance is often a required condition to seeing a difficult project through to fruition, quite often cutting one's losses to stem the bleeding whence new information comes to light is essential.

    i personally think this is a tree that'll never bear marketable fruit. in fact, we have a bunch of low hanging fruit rotting on the pre-existing trees as it is. this was always about an industrial subsidy - not in the interests of hydro rate payers. it's a text book example demonstrating the bcuc's raison d'etre. rarely, does anything good come from goverments circumventing regulatory structures.

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    Site C once finished will be the biggest white elephant in BC’s history.

    Estimate started with a little over 8 billion then recently climbed to 10 billion.
    Unforeseen geotechnical conditions could easily escalate the cost to well over 12 billion and counting. More tension cracks, unstable slopes, unstable soil,…….coming, like it or not.

    Simply put .THERE IS NO NEED FOR THE DAM. PERIOD!

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    Yeah...we could erect thousands of acres of bird choppers instead.
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    Re: Site "C"

    Quote Originally Posted by mpotzold View Post
    Unforeseen geotechnical conditions could easily escalate the cost to well over 12 billion and counting. More tension cracks, unstable slopes, unstable soil,…….coming, like it or not.
    You mean those access roads you and your anti-everything crowd mistook for tension cracks?

    Maybe this will help: we'll drown some bears (bears with gigantic teeth and sharp claws, no less) with the dam and make it safe for you to go in the bush again. Still against it?
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    Sorry!!!! but in all honesty, i could care less,, what todbartell! actually thinks
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    but man how much pepporoni can your arshole take anyways !

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    Re: Site "C"

    Site C will go through. Too many Unions on Horgans ass pushing for it. And wouldn't make him very popular putting 2000 out of work before Christmas. Even if the majority currently are non-union. Andrew is really biting his tongue. He doesn't want Site C but won't threaten to kick the stool out from under Horgan by pulling his 3 members support.
    Horgan has a bigger plum that he is looking at. The Proportional representation vote. The thing Horgan promised to Weaver for his parties support. Imagine using proportional representation results of the last election . Liberals received 40.36% Ndp 40.28%and the Greens received 16.8% of the vote. That would give the Greens roughly 15 seats of the 87 available if proportional was the rule. Thats Weavers pot of Gold for not telling Horgan to kill site C or lose his parties support. He wants the Vote!!!

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    Re: Site "C"

    I wonder what the argument for the dam would be if it hadn't been started until after the BCUC report? Crusty and her crew knew what the report would say which is why they didn't include it in the original estimate "before" things got underway. Now, the only argument the pro-dam people really have is, "we can't stop now". If things had been looked at properly from the beginning, the dam wouldn't be built. A flash of jobs for a few years and then on to the next mega project so some a-hat politician can point and say "look how many jobs we've created". Take out the current "paid" costs already for the dam, and the pro-dam side wouldn't have an argument. Period. We were lied to by the Libs in order to push this thing through and no one seems to recognize that.
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    Re: Site "C"

    And just where is the lovely Christy Clark now .... ?
    Will she be asked to 'cut the ribbon' on the dam/damn that bears her name ...... 'Site CC'
    What a wonderful moment for the British Columbia taxpayers.

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