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    Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    This table tells the whole story. Check out your areas and see just how you will be affected. Your letters to MLA's can then contain facts pertaining to you instead of generalizations that may or may not be true. By looking at the LEH synopsis which will give you a good idea of the total animals available for your hunt (resident plus guide outfitter) you can calculate how much poorer your chances of success will be for your particular hunt. Looking at Region 1 Island Elk, is it worth bothering to apply again? Twenty plus years with no success. Guide allocations have gone from 2% to 10 to 13 to 20. Other hunts not affected nearly as much, but a few per cent here and there will add up.


    Area Hunt Prior to Allocation Policy 2007 2007-2012 Allocation Period 2012 -2016 Allocation Period 2014 Advise to Minister 2014 Minister Decision
    %Residents % Guides %Residents % Guides %Residents % Guides %Residents %Residents % Guides
    1 Bull Elk 98 2 90 10 87 13 87 13 80 20
    1 Elk Achery 64 26 74 26 70 30
    1 Either Sex Elk 70 30 80 20
    1 Grizzly Bear 47 53 65 44 60 40 60 40 60 40
    2 Bull Elk 80 20 90 10 81 19 81 19 80 20
    2 Mountain Goat n/a n/a 75 25
    3 Mountain Goat 74 26 69 31 71 29 71 29 65 35
    3 Grizzly Bear 70 30 88 12 87 13 87 13 60 40
    3 Moose 95 5 90 10 90 10 90 10 80 20
    3 Big Horn Sheep 70 30 76 24 77 23 77 23 70 30
    4 Big Horn Sheep 75 25 71 29 68 32 68 32 GOS GOS
    4 Mountain Goat 75 25 71 29 69 31 69 31 65 35
    4 Grizzly Bear 70 30 70 30 74 26 74 26 60 40
    4 Bull Moose 78 22 79 21 79 21 79 21 80 20
    5 Moose Cow only n/a n/a 98 2
    5 Moose 78 22 98 2 77 23 77 23 75 25
    5 Bull Caribou 80 20 76 24 71 29 79 21 75 25
    5 Grizzly Bear 62 38 70 30 73 27 73 27 60 40
    5 Mountain Goat 57 43 63 37 67 33 67 33 65 35
    6 North Thin Horn Sheep 60 40 55 45 64 36 64 36 60 40
    6 South Moose 81 19 77 23 75 25 75 25 75 25
    6 North Moose na na n/a n/a 70 30 70 30 75 25
    6 South Mountain Goat 75 25 70 30 71 29 71 29 65 35
    6 North Mountain Goat 63 37 n/a n/a 65 35 65 35 65 35
    6 North Caribou 53 47 60 40 73 27 73 27 75 25
    6 South Grizzly Bear 50 50 60 40 64 36 64 36 60 40
    6 North Grizzly Bear 50 50 60 40 64 36 64 36 60 40
    7 A Bull Moose 85 25 82 81 80 20 73 27 75 25
    7A Cow only 95 5 98 2
    7B Thin Horn Sheep 50 50 57 43
    7 A Grizzly Bear 50 50 60 40 64 36 64 36 60 40
    7 B Mountain Goat 70 30 73 27 73 27 65 35
    7B Elk Either sex 78 22
    7 B Elk Anterless 90 10 98 2 98 2 98 2 98 2
    7 B Grizzly Bear 50 50 60 40 64 36 64 36 60 40
    7 B Bison 80 20 84 16 82 18 82 18 80 20
    8 Bull Moose 81 19 85 15 84 16 84 18 80 20
    8 Big Horn Sheep 67 33 73 26 71 29 71 29 70 30
    8 Mountain Goat 68 33 70 30 73 27 71 29 65 35
    8 Grizzly Bear 60 40 60 40 75 25 75 25 60 40

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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    This is great. Easy to read and understand, awesome
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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    Any chance of putting that into a PDF or something to email?
    Knowledgeable shooters agree- The 375 Ruger is the NEW KING of all 375 caliber cartridges. ALL HAIL THE NEW KING!

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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    I felt all along that in order to assess the new numbers you needed to know the old. They never seemed to appear. I put out a request a couple of days ago and Deaddog was good enough to send me an email. I don't think Deaddog would mind me forwarding the email to you Gatehouse and then you could see what you could do. Let me know.

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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    GG had showed another chart for Kootenay moose that went back to the early 90's, maybe even into the 80's. The evolution, or I should say erosion of our allocation didn't start in the 21st century.
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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    To note as well, those numbers regarding Island elk appear minuscule, however they translate into 20 animals per year, or 20 hunts of a lifetime per year.
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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    Your numbers for Roosevelt Elk in region one are wrong, in the mid 80's I had a quota of 7 elk per year, which was 5-6% of the total allocation in my guide area and I was the only outfitter on the Island to have an Elk allocation at that time.

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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatehouse View Post
    Any chance of putting that into a PDF or something to email?
    Has been posted.
    I can email you a PDF of JPG if you like.


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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    What you posted is different adriaticum.....the previous post has several different years and not just the 2014 allocation policy

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    Re: Allocation evolution - This should have been posted early on

    On a related note, it would be interesting to see this information on a graph....showing the rise in GO Allocations and the drop in Resident allocations over the years!

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