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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherby Fan View Post
    Well exactly, if the buck to doe ratio is ok and the any buck season is not harming the overall numbers of deer and the doe's are being bread........why change........just to appease a few whiners ? Politics should never dictate management strategies.
    is it just politics?
    is there really no wildlife knowledge being used to decide these changes?
    I know there are several proposed changes for region 3 next year as well.
    shortening the moose season, making the whitetail harvest better, and more.
    they all seem good to me.
    I would like to think they don't draw from a hat some ideas for changes.

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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    Yup managing for their own selfish reasons not for the betterment of the species ?
    I can't believe our biologists allow this nonsense to take place.
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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    Quote Originally Posted by ru rancher View Post
    very bad idea this ensures all bad gentics bucks to survuve unless taken by the environment even if the doe has half the genetics they will get weeker in time
    really?
    how many hunters go out looking for a "bad genetic" deer to shoot?

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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    I'm think ICBC plays more of a role in wildlife management than it should.
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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    Quote Originally Posted by Weatherby Fan View Post
    Yup managing for their own selfish reasons not for the betterment of the species ?
    I can't believe our biologists allow this nonsense to take place.
    what are their "own selfish reasons"?
    are they really not doing it so that less deer are harvested?

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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    I spoke up.

    Having grown up in the Okanagan and spending a great amount of time hunting there over the last decade I am simply appalled by the government's willingness to cave to a minority group of ignorant troglodytes on the mule deer any buck season. Antler restrictions will not create more deer. I am at a point of absolute frustration with this government's inability to recognize the issues that plague our wildlife and deal with them accordingly. Predator management and habitat enhancement are what is needed - not only in the Okanagan and Kootenay's but throughout all of the province. It's time for someone to grow a pair of testicles and start applying the necessary wildlife management tools within our province to see healthy numbers of ungulates once again.


    I reiterate, point restrictions may pacify a vocal minority but they won't lead to more deer.

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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    Quote Originally Posted by duallie View Post
    is it just politics?
    is there really no wildlife knowledge being used to decide these changes?
    I know there are several proposed changes for region 3 next year as well.
    shortening the moose season, making the whitetail harvest better, and more.
    they all seem good to me.
    I would like to think they don't draw from a hat some ideas for changes.

    Duallie i I haven't shot anything less than a 4 point mule deer in over 20 years as I only hunt Mature mule deer but never would I suggest to manage a species for antlers !
    If there is that much of a concern for mule deer population in those areas they should close them to hunting period and work on habitat and reduce predatation.

    did you not read the comment in the link that the OP posted ?
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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    I'm all for the any buck closure if the science/management data deems it necessary step to maintain healthy numbers. I'm 100% against it if the numbers are there, but some just want to use it as a tool to see more 4pts.

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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    Tons of mature moose around this year. Interesting what happens after years of spike/fork only season supplemented by LEH. Want more mature mule deer? Stop shooting the ones that are barely reaching maturity. I'm all for LEH on 4 points. Give the bucks with good genetics a break.

    Let's be clear - getting rid of any buck season is purely political. It won't make more deer and it won't result in more 4 points. Unfortunately the vocal minority, with no understanding of science or the real issues facing deer populations are making the most noise. It's disappointing to hear the bios are caving to this BS.
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    Re: Close any buck general open seasons in the East Okanagan and Kootenays

    Quote Originally Posted by duallie View Post
    really?
    how many hunters go out looking for a "bad genetic" deer to shoot?
    ummm meat hunters that dont care about the rack ummm people who are hunting for there first time and will shoot any buck ummm people that are hunting with there kids and want to see them smile over a success full trip idk LOTS of people dont just shoot big old prime genetics bucks

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