.30-06 question

[Birddog]

I got a 165 grain "Federal High Energy Trophy Bonded Bear Claw". Shoots at 3000 fps. Nice bullet lota spank! For Island Deer a 150 grain will do.

Cheers Birddog

[boxhitch]

Birddog - is that 3000 a recorded speed or one of the box ? A friend has tried these, but is using a slower speed to calc ballistics (not chronyd)

[todbartell]

fwiw, I chrony'd 165 gr TBBC HE 30-06 load out of a 24" Husquvarna, and it did 2900 fps

[Ilikebigbucks&Icannotlie]

you can look at most reloading books, and get the terminal velocity at any given distance by inputting the muzzle velocity and the ballistic coefficient of the bullet. If memory serves me right, the 165 grain Nosler is the best all-round performer for the 30.06. It's really about how hard you are smacking an animal at any given distance. Heavy bullets will do this best with all things being equal, however they tend to have poorer ballistic coefficients (not because of the weight, but the bullet shape), and slow down enough at longer distances, that a lighter bullet with a superior BC will actually outsmack the heavier one. IMO the most important thing is being able to consistantly put the bullet in the boiler room, and worry about speed, and hitting power second. The moral of the story is don't outgun yourself.

[Franko Manini]

My 165 load for 3006 falls under the title "DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME". I at one time my pet load was 62gr 760 winchester powder and a cci 250 primer. Speed was 3080spf. 60.8 is max with a cci200 in the Hornady book I have. I would never shoot this load on days with a temp above + 5.

That's ridiculous!

[HighCountry]

I personally use Federal 165 gr ballistic tip.for everythings from coyo up to
grizz bear no problem at all.

[MRP]

Mr. Dean
Thanks. No sweat.
I would hate to start trouble on a good site like this.

[psyco]

personaly i like the 165 grain they work great all round.

[elkguide]

Which grain of bullet would you say preforms the best for longer distances for the .30-06 ?

The grain of bullet is one thing that alot of people think is a primary factor and that is true to a point but not the only factor. Shape ballitic co. / sectional desity and powder make loads different. I think that alot of people think because a bullet is going fast out of the barrel that it's downrange performance would be better and thats hogwash.....infact downrange performance can be much better at long range in a heavier bullet. don't let all the hype cloud the facts.

[moosecaller]

Note from cd sierra manual coeffecient of a nosler part 165 is .410 and for a hornady 190 it is .491 fair difference there. The 165 does bleed off a bit more at range all being equal 200 yd zero the 165 is 48" low at 500 and the 190 is 41" low but the 190 is still hitting much harder at range the 165 at 200 hits with 2055 and 1183 at 500, the 190 at 200 hits with 2697 and 1731 at 500 heavier bullets do perform you do not need to go hypersonic to make your shot. And the more lead in your game the better to do it's thing. ie: expend energy and more of it comparatively, better chance of a bigger wound channel, etc.