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i would have to say yes, no diff then a hunting blind...
When sleeping in Grizz country one would be stupid to not have a loaded gun at the ready but I doubt you are allowed to have one loaded at the ready.....you might walk out of reach and then someone bent on breaking the law take it.
Im guessing you got 3 different answers
How about
3) I don't care, I'm doing it anyway?
I'm fairly sure its illegal when you consider regulations considering safe firearm storage. But like I say, I'd rather pay the fine than not be able to shoot my way out of the bear burrito situation...
If you are in an area where it is legal to discharge a firearm, it's legal to have a loaded firearm, s long as it is under your control. (You can't leave an unattended, loaded firearm in your tent)
The exceptions to this would be if there are other, specific laws that prohibit it (such as in your truck)
IMO A tent is not a residence, so the same rules apply as in the outdoors.
Practice safe handling skills, muzzle control
On that line, being drunk in a tent would be the same as drunk in a public place ? Not a safe haven ?
I said yes......interesting question!!! Should be some interesting comments on this one!
Perry
From the rcmp-grc,
UNLOADED non-restricted firearms can be kept unlocked:
temporarily if needed to control animal predators in an area where firearms can lawfully be fired ( amunition must be kept separate or locked up); or
in a remote wildernesss area (ammunition may be kept readily accessible).
As far as i can tell it can not be in the gun! Like Gatehouse say if you are lawfully hunting.
After seeing videos of what grizzlies do to tents, I wouldn't go to bed without the riot gun right next to me. If I'm in the canopy or camper, gun beside me 3 slugs on the window sill. Better to be safe than eaten!
That is storage.
If you are present it is not storage and it's under your supervision and it can be loaded and sitting in your tent.
[QUOTE]As far as i can tell it can not be in the gun! Like Gatehouse say if you are lawfully hunting./QUOTE]
You dont' have to be hunting to have a loaded firearm in your possession. You just ned to be somewhere that it is legal to discharge a firearm.
Especially in known bear country, I would be sleeping with my finger Crazy Glued to the safety.
[quote=Gatehouse;616285]That is storage.
If you are present it is not storage and it's under your supervision and it can be loaded and sitting in your tent.
Yes..but when you sleep you are not attending, so it must be unloaded?Quote:
As far as i can tell it can not be in the gun! Like Gatehouse say if you are lawfully hunting./QUOTE]
You dont' have to be hunting to have a loaded firearm in your possession. You just ned to be somewhere that it is legal to discharge a firearm.
maybe the guys at work are thinking Park (crown land)?
I will continue to sleep in my tent in bear country with a loaded 12ga shot gun, or 300 win mag!! Any predator who is interested in snackin on me will get an unpleasent surprise!! Moosin
if is not legal ill take the fine
If you are dead, you can't pay the fine!
I've not had a bear situation, but have had a cougar try to launch off a cutbank onto my horse and me....even with my saddle gun loaded but on safety, it took what seemed forever to get it out of the scabbard and the safety off....if I had to load it as well, triple the time. second incident, a large doberman attacked my horse, trying to grab it by the throat. I kept spinning the horse around while trying to get the same rifle out of the scabbard and reload it. I was only able to get one shell into the breach within a minute. By this time my horse had received several nasty scratches on it's neck. The owner finally called the dog off when he saw me take aim. To this day I wish I had left that gun loaded because I sure would have had the time to shoot that menace....I keep thinking if it had been a youngster riding along, what would have happened.
Illegal or not, your personal safety comes first, in my opinion, as I first stated...If you're dead, you can't pay the fine!
after the brambles incident, i'd probably have 3 in the mag...but i feel pretty safe in my camper!
an unloaded rifle is a CLUB! :?, if a club comforts you?? have at it!:neutral:
as for Crown land or Private land?? if you are there within the law, then no worries,,,
I'd have to agree, unless it's a forestry camp site (crown land, not legal to discharge a firearm in a forestry campsite), or you tent is inside your truck..., you are good to go.
So what happens when you fall asleep sitting up against a tree glassing for deer - are you a criminal at that point?:wink:
when sleeping in bear country ... yepQuote:
Aint nothing in this world more useless than an empty gun
This is what I found on a tent. http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/...1.xml#section1
Here's noob's 2 cents.
If you're in a place where you're worried about being caught by some authority person with having a loaded firearm in your tent, then I would imagine there are more authorities than bears in the area.
I think it comes down to safe firearm storage. Is it safe to be asleep with a fully loaded firearm in your tent, that you are effectively leaving unattended? I would think not.
It's perfectly legal to shoot a predatory animal that is attacking you in defense of your life. Cougars, bears, wolves and yotes are all fair game if they are trying to make a snack of you. As long as you disclose it you are okay...if you kill it and try to hide it and they find out, then your entire character comes into question, and everything you say will be looked upon with doubt.
"residence" means
(a) a building or part of it, or a trailer, camper, manufactured home, tent or vessel that is genuinely and actually occupied and used by the owner, lessee or tenant solely as a
(i) private dwelling,
(ii) private guest room in a hotel, motel, auto court, lodging house, boarding house or club, or
(iii) private summer dwelling, or a private dwelling or living place used during vacation periods or a private lodge, or
(b) a building or part of it designated by the general manager in a permit or other document as a private dwelling
So according to that, it is a residence...idgaf anyways cause alive and wrong beats dead and right everyday and twice on Sundays.
I agree with your first statement, but not your second. Here's some good reading if you want to know why. No doubt caution is in order with ANY loaded rifle.
http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showth...hlight=grizzly
No distinction between temporary or permanent
How private is a tent on public lands ?
then add the part you omitted
Points to titled or permitted lands maybe ?Quote:
together with the land appurtenant to it that is essential or appropriate for the convenient use, occupation and enjoyment of a private dwelling or private summer dwelling;
Maybe applies to a pay-for-use site
But a temporary tent in the wilderness ?
Sorry I didn't mean to omit anything...I actually don't have an opinion on it either way, was just pasting the info from the link that was posted earlier...however
living place used during vacation periods
That to me is what makes me think the law sees it as a residence, unless they are actually indicating 'private living place used during vacation periods' it would omit a tent in the woods...however they didn't use the word private in that portion of the statement, yet they used it in the remainder.
What it comes down to is...I have no goddamn clue if it's legal or not, even after reading the law lol...I choose protection, and iIFit is a private residence, I guess any CO or RCMP officer would require a search warrant to enter it, because they need have probable cause to enter it otherwise, and as there is no proof you are doing anything illegal, NOR any proof you have a stored firearm, then I guess it's something of a moot point. :confused:
Anyone who hunts and sleeps in remote areas should ask a couple of members on this site if they think a loaded gun is necessary