Re: Wolf Pack Chase Elk Herd
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Originally Posted by
Red_Mist
Absolutely false. Those elk weren't sick or weak, they were just on the menu. Predators kill mature healthy animals all the time. Don't spread the lie.
You are not completely incorrect. The sick and weak will die first as they are the easiest. Logical and obvious? The predators will work their way up if they live that long. Bulls are likely the weakest at this time of year as they have spent too much energy chasing and defending cows.
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Its February, most of that happened in September. Are there multiple cycles sure, but don't spread the Disney myth.
Re: Wolf Pack Chase Elk Herd
'Absolutely false. Those elk weren't sick or weak, they were just on the menu. Predators kill mature healthy animals all the time. Don't spread the lie.'
' You are not completely incorrect. The sick and weak will die first as they are the easiest. Logical and obvious? The predators will work their way up if they live that long. Bulls are likely the weakest at this time of year as they have spent too much energy chasing and defending cows.'
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they will run a healthy herd until they kill one or loose interest. The larger the pack, the longer they can push hard
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Yup, and which elk will fall behind first? The weakest! Luck aside, the toughest elk will be the most likely to survive. It's the way it works.
Re: Wolf Pack Chase Elk Herd
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Originally Posted by
Red_Mist
Its February, most of that happened in September. Are there multiple cycles sure, but don't spread the Disney myth.
And what have the elk been feeding on since September? Not much. . . . . Disney? Lie? WTF?
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The Disney myth is that only 'old or sick" animals are killed by predators.
Predators kill healthy animals all the time. Most of the ones they kill are healthy.
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Old sick and weak is a very poor diet for anyone including wolves...
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steel ram i'm not attacking you , so don't get offended. the things your saying i hear from non hunters and sadly seems like some hunters buy into the misinformation as well. there's no hospital or hospice care that animals check into and the end of life. they die from 1. predation 2. environment (fall through ice, avalanches, freeze to death, cars/trains) 3. parasites and disease. It would be nice if the world worked like Disney, makes us believe that animals dying in their "beds" surrounded by family..... but they don't . the whole predators eating only the weak and old is false and promoted to raise animals like wolves to a pedestal (where the public is told they do a wonderful service to wildlife) when in fact they simply devastate ungulate populations across the board. that's the Disney myth. The truth is predators rip flesh from bone while an animals is alive and it dies an agonizing slow death. We hunters kill in seconds and are truly angels of mercy compared to the death they will encounter naturally.
so back to the op, those elk are lucky the snow is at the level it is at. you can clearly see in the video the wolves are struggling to keep up in the snow. if the conditions were different .... at least one of those elk would be wolf poop.
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It doesnt matter if they are sick or weak where I live. Come end of February and most of March we get plus temps during the day and freezing at night. Makes for easy travel for Wolves and even harder travel for all ungulates. This is probably the case for most of Northern BC.
Re: Wolf Pack Chase Elk Herd
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Originally Posted by
steel_ram
They go after what they can catch, which will be the weakest (sick) in the group. Argument is safe.
Most groups of elk don't contain any old, sick or weak individuals. Wolves still prey upon them