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Don't listen to the naysayers, they are even LESS informed than your dog. It's just a way of expressing their angst over something that they know nothing about.
Some properties might be subject to expropriation, but these are KNOWN, nobody is going to blindside you except an unscrupulous owner, get a realty agent (due diligence) and title insurance.
Some properties might have access issues and they will have access issues UNTIL treaties are enacted. Up in the Squamish Valley the Rez straddles the FSR, they could deny traffic, and they'd be completely within their rights. Expect Forestry won't send them any money for access and the locals would deny service. There are examples all over BC.
Treaties are NOTHING to fear, yes they will displace some people, a lot of them First Nations.
Do you want FNs to be subject to taxes, able to SELL land, buy land, oversight, the benefits go on and on---the bad effects will be over in a generation.
Re: Best place to own land...
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Originally Posted by
Ghilliesuit
Don't listen to the naysayers, they are even LESS informed than your dog. It's just a way of expressing their angst over something that they know nothing about.
Some properties might be subject to expropriation, but these are KNOWN, nobody is going to blindside you except an unscrupulous owner, get a realty agent (due diligence) and title insurance.
Some properties might have access issues and they will have access issues UNTIL treaties are enacted. Up in the Squamish Valley the Rez straddles the FSR, they could deny traffic, and they'd be completely within their rights. Expect Forestry won't send them any money for access and the locals would deny service. There are examples all over BC.
Treaties are NOTHING to fear, yes they will displace some people, a lot of them First Nations.
Do you want FNs to be subject to taxes, able to SELL land, buy land, oversight, the benefits go on and on---the bad effects will be over in a generation.
You are dreaming and your dream is going to turn into a nightmare. Most people have no idea of what is coming or how it will affect them and the province. And the secrecy surrounding the process is bullshit. It's secret because they don't want it known because of backlash. The treaties that should be settled first are all the ones in the 604 exchange and wake up the masses that just see treaties as a bunch of rural land been given away. Doesn't affect them so they don't give a shit.
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alpinedust
Oh yikes. I think I read on here somewhere about some bands claiming large areas of lands. You think they could take land from private owners?
Seriously? You think you read somewhere?
Its a complete F story in this province, look elsewhere.
Re: Best place to own land...
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Originally Posted by
Ghilliesuit
Don't listen to the naysayers, they are even LESS informed than your dog. It's just a way of expressing their angst over something that they know nothing about.
Some properties might be subject to expropriation, but these are KNOWN, nobody is going to blindside you except an unscrupulous owner, get a realty agent (due diligence) and title insurance.
Some properties might have access issues and they will have access issues UNTIL treaties are enacted. Up in the Squamish Valley the Rez straddles the FSR, they could deny traffic, and they'd be completely within their rights. Expect Forestry won't send them any money for access and the locals would deny service. There are examples all over BC.
Treaties are NOTHING to fear, yes they will displace some people, a lot of them First Nations.
Do you want FNs to be subject to taxes, able to SELL land, buy land, oversight, the benefits go on and on---the bad effects will be over in a generation.
Step away from the crack pipe......
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Originally Posted by
Keta1969
You are dreaming and your dream is going to turn into a nightmare. Most people have no idea of what is coming or how it will affect them and the province. And the secrecy surrounding the process is bullshit. It's secret because they don't want it known because of backlash. The treaties that should be settled first are all the ones in the 604 exchange and wake up the masses that just see treaties as a bunch of rural land been given away. Doesn't affect them so they don't give a shit.
So you admit YOU don't know anything because of the secrecy. Why the comments about something YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT? w_m it goes double for you.
We have the Nisga Treaty, signed, sealed and delivered; what are you having trouble with, be specific. Is it individuals have to pay taxes? Fee-simple land ownership? Resource management?
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Originally Posted by
Ghilliesuit
So you admit YOU don't know anything because of the secrecy. Why the comments about something YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT? w_m it goes double for you.
We have the Nisga Treaty, signed, sealed and delivered; what are you having trouble with, be specific. Is it individuals have to pay taxes? Fee-simple land ownership? Resource management?
Again,,,,step away from the crack pipe.....
Re: Best place to own land...
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Originally Posted by
Ghilliesuit
Don't listen to the naysayers, they are even LESS informed than your dog. It's just a way of expressing their angst over something that they know nothing about.
Some properties might be subject to expropriation, but these are KNOWN, nobody is going to blindside you except an unscrupulous owner, get a realty agent (due diligence) and title insurance.
Some properties might have access issues and they will have access issues UNTIL treaties are enacted. Up in the Squamish Valley the Rez straddles the FSR, they could deny traffic, and they'd be completely within their rights. Expect Forestry won't send them any money for access and the locals would deny service. There are examples all over BC.
Treaties are NOTHING to fear, yes they will displace some people, a lot of them First Nations.
Do you want FNs to be subject to taxes, able to SELL land, buy land, oversight, the benefits go on and on---the bad effects will be over in a generation.
I have to agree with Ghilie. A guy starts a thread looking for sound advice and gets handed a shit show of comments that have no bearing on whether or not to become a proud owner of a chunk of land but has everything to do with their own insecurities. Treaties provide certainty, if the land isn't already earmarked as Treaty designated lands you won't even know a Treaty was signed and they certainly are not going to quibble over a quarter section. Land claims is another issue, those Nations launching a land claim know they have to live with their neighbours and the package will outline what is not on the table. 9/10 times your property isn't even a figment of imagination, with the exception of access but I am sure you will do your homework before purchasing. I have buddies that have purchased a couple hundred acres, knowing the treaty and land claim issues inside and out, the neighbours hay it and they successfully manage it, hunt it, fully enjoying the experience knowing that they have their little private area that they can access year after year without any impediments or interference from the participants of this forum.
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McBride or Dunster area.
Cheers
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weatherby_man
Again,,,,step away from the crack pipe.....
Is that all you got? PPP. pupplejumper said it all, " ...everything to do with their own insecurities..."
Re: Best place to own land...
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Originally Posted by
puddlejumper
I have to agree with Ghilie. A guy starts a thread looking for sound advice and gets handed a shit show of comments that have no bearing on whether or not to become a proud owner of a chunk of land but has everything to do with their own insecurities. Treaties provide certainty, if the land isn't already earmarked as Treaty designated lands you won't even know a Treaty was signed and they certainly are not going to quibble over a quarter section. Land claims is another issue, those Nations launching a land claim know they have to live with their neighbours and the package will outline what is not on the table. 9/10 times your property isn't even a figment of imagination, with the exception of access but I am sure you will do your homework before purchasing. I have buddies that have purchased a couple hundred acres, knowing the treaty and land claim issues inside and out, the neighbours hay it and they successfully manage it, hunt it, fully enjoying the experience knowing that they have their little private area that they can access year after year without any impediments or interference from the participants of this forum.
While I agree with you and understand the OP has a legitimate question.
Firstly, you don't know where or what treaty lands are. Nobody knows if its outlined in the treaty or not until it shows up on the treaty commission website.
Where I live is almost certainly going to be in a treaty, nobody knows for sure, and I doubt you do.
There are going to be expropriations and if you don't think so then you haven't read the treaties posted.
When someone posts a query, they need to be expecting something they don't want to hear, and if you were to read some of the links provided, then perhaps you would also have a better understanding.
Also, I doubt you have considered what UNDRIP will mean for everyone, including FN, nobody knows where the courts are going to go.
If there is anything certain, it is the uncertainty of land ownership in rural BC.