Re: Another hit to our hunting spaces - indigenous conservation areas
So what will anyone really do? Nothing, they will get their land, we will loose our rights and we will bitcch about it! Little by little and it will be gone!
Re: Another hit to our hunting spaces - indigenous conservation areas
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browningboy
So what will anyone really do? Nothing, they will get their land, we will loose our rights and we will bitcch about it! Little by little and it will be gone!
And you are right. Not long ago, 2500 of us showed up in Victoria, then Kelowna. Many on here said they didn’t want to miss a day of work or spend the money to travel. Out of over 100,000 hunters in this province and only a handful of us do anything to support the hunt we love. Time for everyone to look in the mirror and realize we’re the problem too for not speaking up. Spend a little now to save for later or give up and lose it all.
Re: Another hit to our hunting spaces - indigenous conservation areas
Our world as hunters and shooters is under attack from so many directions it’s not even funny
I need a safe space to go and hide
Re: Another hit to our hunting spaces - indigenous conservation areas
they'll probably let us on their land, for the right price....get used to more of this:
http://www.kispioxband.com/businesses/fishing-access/
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BRvalley
Better be getting lunch and a blowjob for those prices. :(
Re: Another hit to our hunting spaces - indigenous conservation areas
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BRvalley
About 4 years ago I actually was looking at large acreages to purchase for a hunting retreat & to possibly live on right on the Kispiox (biggest steelhead I've ever seen), but after doing more research on the Gitxsan and learning about just how determined and ambitious they are about seeing an outcome from the courts similar to what the Tsilhqotin got in 2014, and learning about all the rail blockades they like to put up from time to time, and about how they can't stand non-indigenous anglers catching "their" fish on the Skeena, I said to hell with that idea! No way I was wanting to pay a toll just to cross a bridge (unless it was a new bridge and it needed to be paid for) to get to my driveway, and so I bailed on a really good deal as a result.
Still looking for a nice acreage, but you bet your ass the very first thing I look for now is just how hostile the local FN's are towards whities in particular areas, just so I can try and get a sense of if I'll have to pay some kind of toll in the future. Its really tough to fork over a ton of cash on a dream acreage when there's always a chance that some FN group will try to say that your land is no longer "yours", but rather its now "their" land at some point in the future.
Its hard to overstate just how profoundly the BC gov't has let all of us down by allowing all these land title disputes to fester for so many decades. Now those of us who want to buy land in remote areas will always be in a very precarious position because someday a judge or the local FN band will tell you that land is no longer yours and/or you're gonna have to start paying a toll just to access your own driveway. Heck it might be smarter to simply look for properties out of province instead and avoid this total gong show altogether.
I don't really blame FN's for any of this - they've wanted to settle forever, and our gov't just kept kicking the can down the road. But I most certainly am scared as f_ck about some FN's (like the Gitxsan) ambitions and hostility towards non-indigenous rights and our desire & ability to fish and hunt in this province.
If anyone has a non-violent solution to this inevitable reckoning that's about to ensue I'd love to hear it
Re: Another hit to our hunting spaces - indigenous conservation areas
All the pressure must be exerted on the government, not on the FN.
Re: Another hit to our hunting spaces - indigenous conservation areas
Alternatively, you could actually read the plan, come to an informed conclusion and find an ally instead of an enemy.
https://kaskadenacouncil.com/downloa...=5e9f88eabefd5
"Hikers, hunters, campers, anglers and outdoor enthusiasts are welcome onDene K’éh Kusān land."
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adriaticum
All the pressure must be exerted on the government, not on the FN.
You sound like you are on the FN's side.
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Eastbranch
Alternatively, you could actually read the plan, come to an informed conclusion and find an ally instead of an enemy.
https://kaskadenacouncil.com/downloa...=5e9f88eabefd5
"Hikers, hunters, campers, anglers and outdoor enthusiasts are welcome onDene K’éh Kusān land."
Good catch, thanks.
It's wise to make note of the positives, and to thank and respect bands and nations that *could* be difficult to deal with but instead are not so hard to deal with.