Much advantage with the 4-12 if say looking at a deer at 200-300yds compared to the 3-9??. Thanks Rob
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Much advantage with the 4-12 if say looking at a deer at 200-300yds compared to the 3-9??. Thanks Rob
None I'd say. 200 or 300 yards is not that far away...
12 power is tough to keep steady enough to see effectively unless you have a good rest to hold to.
I have a 4.5-14 burris on one of my rifles and I like it a lot. It gathers little well and it could make the difference when you have to count points before you can pull the trigger.
That's why you have binocluars with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulies
I don't mind the higher power scopes.
You will have 3X extra over the 3-9 :)Quote:
None I'd say. 200 or 300 yards is not that far away...
Well, look at it this way - a 3-9 would allow you to shoot something at 900 yards with the same view you would get at 100 yards with the naked eye (which most people with reasonable eyesight would consider a fairly easy shot to take with a 1x scope). Obviously, you're never (I hope) going to fling lead at a critter at 900 yards out. In more practical terms - that same 9 power would let you see a critter at 300 yards as if it was at 34-ish yards. Most of us think that's plenty of zoom. To be honest, even a fixed 4 power or a 2-7 is plenty to allow you to accurately place a shot at sane hunting ranges. Me and a buddy spent half a day banging the 250 yard gong at the range in off-hand target practice with a 4 power the other day - and we were nailing about 9 out of 10 with the little 4 power, and didn't feel like we needed more zoom.
However, that said - a 4-12 would make counting points in the scope easier, if that's how you count points (I concur that bino's is the proper way to get a point count).
personally I prefer the 3-9x, Ive owned 4.5-14 and 4-12x, 5-15x, all of them have gone on their way to be replaced with fixed 6 powers, or the 3-9. The extra magnification is only an asset while shooting targets in my opinion, and the smaller field of view is a negative of the larger scopes on a hunting rifle
I have 3-9 and 4.5-14, I find I never have my scope lower than 6x, unless in real tight bush ie 40yd shot. It takes a little practice but when you know where your looking when you bring your scope up the higher power is nice. 4or 5 times now having a high power scope has saved me and my friends from the embarasment of shooting an illegal animal, you have 10x binos, that little bit extra the 14x gives you helps alot!!. my 2c
I have the 4.5-14 and in most shooting situations it's on 9 power, but it is very helpful when your watching an animal and trying to assess how many points it has so you can make the shot before it goes out of sight.
I got a 4-12 leupy...
4-9 great for hunting 9-12 I use for target shooting.
I have a 4.5-14 leupold as well and love it. I used to use a 3-9 and It was good as well. But for myself I prefer the higher powerd scopes. I do not go to the range much so its not a target gun that it is on. I just find that with a good rest the bigger the animal is in the scope the easier it is to pick the spot you want to hit. That being said, One of the buffalo I shot I was using a rifle with a 6-16 and I had put the scope to 16 power to judge the animal. He was only about 150 yrds away at the time. when he turned and gave me a broadside shot and I pulled the trigger. It was a perfect shot [double lung], however he took off like a jack rabbit. After I jacked in another shell, I had a hell of a time trying to relocate him in the scope at 16 power. He had ran about 100 yrds to the trees before I was able to get the cross hairs on him, he was going up hill and I was able to center on his spine and down he went.It was a good lesson to learn.Use binos to judge, and at close range don't use the high power.
bhh
Anything more then a 3-9 on a Big Game hunting rifle is a waste....the field of view one gives up isn't worth the extra 3x... IMO.
Stick with a 3-9x40.....it's all you need.:cool:
Unless you shoot elk at 900 yards......then niether will do :lol:;)
I don't see that you loose that much field of view. you can still have a fairly low power, mine being 4.5. So how much difference in the field of view is it between 3 power and 4.5? I am interested to know.IMO you only gain by having the higher power alternative.
bhh
I just bought a Zeiss over the Leupold VX3 because I held them both at the same time and prefered the Zeiss.
The difference between FOV between scopes of same brand/different magnification and brand names is pretty wild.
Just for the Hell of it I looked a few up for you.
Leupold Rifleman 3 - 9 x 40
3x FOV 32.9 feet(100yrds)
9x FOV 11.0 feet(100 yards)
Leupold VX3 3.5 - 10 x 40
3.5x FOV 29.5 feet(100yrds)
10x FOV 9.8 feet(100 yrds)
Leupold VX3 3.5 - 10 x 50
same as x40
Leupold VX3 4.5 - 14 x 40
4.5x FOV 19.9 feet(100yds)
14x FOV 6.6 feet(100 yards)
Zeiss Conquest 3.5 - 10 X 44
3.5x FOV 35.1 feet(100 yrds)
10x FOV 11.61 feet(100 yrds)
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Originally Posted by tomahawk
I've used my 12x scope to count that 4th little point on a mule deer that I couldn't find with my 10x binoculars.
I'd definitely go for the 4-12x, I like it for sighting in too.
Hopefully that 4th little point on that mule deer wasn't a twig/branch by some guys head and he's all camoed up....I think using your scope is a very unsafe and irresponsible way of looking at/for game. Look at it from the other perspective...........:roll:.......binoculars don't have a barrel with a bullet looking at whatever you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by kootenayelkslayer
I think you've got it all wrong partner. I knew that mulie was there. I wasn't "looking for deer" with my scope. I don't agree with doing that at all. I had been watching that deer for a while through my binos at about 250 yards, but couldn't find the 4th little point that I needed for it to be legal. So, cranked the scope up to 12x and there it was, clear as day.Quote:
Originally Posted by .303
And if you think I'm looking at this deer with a bullet in the chamber and my finger on the trigger than your wrong. I don't see the harm in doing this whatsoever. I really disagree with your comment.