Raincoast is hosting a party in van tomorow at patagonia..
All that can attend bring your bear jerky.
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Raincoast is hosting a party in van tomorow at patagonia..
All that can attend bring your bear jerky.
Awesome!!!
Really nobody wants to join this party..
I have heard from jassimine how many edcucated outdoorsman are in raincoast..
So it should be perfectly acceptable to go to such a party with a duffel bag of jerky.
I shoot a bear every season and would gladly share the delicious treat of some bear nerky my mom makes.
Well dressed and good conversation i think it would be great if some of our well spoke represntitives where to attend..
I think the party starts at 730
Man some of you lower mainlanders should get together and do this it is an awesome chance to prove a point :)
See if any of the good folks at the party know a good source for some leg hold traps while you are there
Come on we need a couple guys to go it would be great.
God rest Big Boars Sole he would have been all over such a opportunity by my understanding of his character.
come on somebody has to go.
If it was closer I would be all for it
You know there will be mention of grizzly bear victory...
Why is it so terrible that antis might be active members on this site? I don't see the point in trying to catch them out and identify them as antis. Their two cents doesn't change my participation one bit, not what I post nor what I read. I don't say anything on here that I wouldn't say around a campfire with other hunters or at a cocktail party with a mixed group.
Is there some level of secrecy I'm supposed to observe because people that don't agree with me might be reading what I write? Or offering an opinion that I don't agree with?
Who cares? We certainly don't let them sow discontent amongst us-- we do that ourselves just fine.
Yup not all deer & moose hunters are predator hunters and many think they should leave the Predators alone ! there opinions ! RJ
I don't worry about it if I cross paths with them here or in person
It would be worth attending. Chat with folks who have different viewpoints; maybe change a mind, or have a few laughs, maybe meet a chick.
I agree with island wanderer..i was saying be violent rude or uncanny.
I am very aware there is extreme activist on the site.
The biggest thing is some of us engage in argument with them that feeds them ammo.
Just saying it would be interesting to attend. See perspective.
Maybe talk a extremly hot activist back to a man cave and get her on a grizz rug.
I agree sith them in the sense leaving a whole bear carcass in a high tourismn area is wrong and has fed a lot of ammo.
A gut pile can typicaly not be avoided with a creature of that calibre...but the whole naked body might offend me.
And I am sure that you are now ready to present evidence on this fact now? Seems to be on your mind an awful lot?
You asked me a question, and I answered.
But then when I asked you to answer my question you tucked your tail between your legs and ran off.
Because you simply like to lob accusations at someone and refuse to stand behind your own statements with any shred of proof.
So again I ask you, show me where I've made a statement or post that would support the anti hunting agenda?
Please show us, I'm sure we'd all love to see it.
But I know you will never do it, and make up some excuse or go on some rant, because there is no proof to back up your statement.
Just you demanding that only your questions be answered but running to hide any time I ask you anything or ask you to provide proof.
So do you have the proof now? It's been a few weeks, I know your not the "quickest" but that should have been more than enough time to find the evidence supporting your statement that I am not a hunter.
So please let's see and take your own advice : )
Also the party was attended by colleagues in my department.
It was regarding salmon conservation, so most of the Earth 2 Oceans research group attended, since there was beer, food and music!
For my post i intended. I wasnt saying be violent..
Lol autl correct and fat fingers..i was saying it would have been interesting.
Thats the beauty of the internet.....you can pretend do be anything you want and never have to prove it. When i see field pics of you on hunts and with your harvests my opinion may sway.
Great way to dodge the question and avoid having to provide any element of truth in your statement to allow you to continue talking out of your butt.
You are the one making statements and accusations about me, so the onus is on you to back them up. I'm not saying I'm the world's foremost anything.
You can't even justify with any actual real evidence of why you believe it is so either.
Good job!
But no proof or substance as usual. Just random accusations thrown onto a forum to demean or belittle me for little to no reason.
I don't care about your opinion sadly.
Give it a rest jassmine. I asked you point blank about a year ago to post up a picture of your hunting rifle and give us a few details about it, as you claim to be a hunter. I very specifically stated the picture had to be current with something to validate date(ie. Newspaper) and did not have to reveal your identity in any form. I even posted a picture of one of mine with a brief description to give you a guideline.
After a long pause, you hung a picture of discount box of 270 ammo on a WSS paper, likely the nearest thing to the counter when they turned you down on handling there rifles without a PAL....Hahaha
It's your drama princess, pretend it however you wish.....
Sorry I am not the "quickest" by your academic standards.Quote:
So do you have the proof now? It's been a few weeks, I know your not the "quickest" but that should have been more than enough time to find the evidence supporting your statement that I am not a hunter.
So please let's see and take your own advice : )
Call me stupid in your eyes I guess......
Just an FYI, I was a managing partner of an extremely successful national sporting goods company.
My duties included sales and marketing, over seas sourcing, private label and licensing, vendor relations (some were publicly held suppliers) inventory control and purchasing.
I cashed out in my forties, sold my investment properties and have been laying boot tracks in the hills ever since.
Not bad for a guy that is not the "quickest" by academic standards.
Jass, the academic community has a big fancy word to describe women that unknowingly have the propensity to annoy and agitate most people if given a chance.
They call it........ "SINGLE"
Here you go before you cry anymore.
Luckily I'm packing up for the weekend.
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Wow, between you and IW you're looking pretty desperate here, this girl has answered every question you guys have asked then when prodded to answer hers you've turned to childish shit, grow a set for fack sakes! I've actually enjoyed her posts for the most part, the majority are very factual, the others are defending her position which she really shouldn't have to if you have the ability to read or can focus long enough to understand what the articles she posts are actually saying! Don't let a few discourage you Jazzy, some of us are listening AND learning! K
So, how many cats do you own f350? :p
Congrats on the picture there Jassmine, but a whole year later??
Out of curiosity though, maybe tell us a bit about what you have pictured there, makes, models, calibers and scope etc.
Sure hope that doesn't take another year. LOL.
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There are members of Raincoast on HBC who are merely posing as hunters to extract info, learn about our culture, with an agenda.
Their mind is made up.....they are merely baiting and engaging in support of that agenda.
They will pick and chose from the data they extract from hunters, on this site, what is convenient will be documented, what isn't will be flushed.
They will have it peer reviewed and push that forward to influence Gov on slowly handicapping hunting in general.
In their minds hunting is a "fragile social license".
From the attached article.....
"And other hunters interested in safeguarding a fragile social license afforded to hunting these days would benefit from speaking up. Their voices can join those presenting arguments from the perspective of ecology, economics, ethics and Indigenous law."
Get your head out of your ass people.
Some of you are only sharpening their knife.
If you read the article it is plain to see that there are "members" here who's only engagement and focus on this site is solely on this very topic.
Meanwhile they are only building ammunition to chip away at a lifestyle, a means to feed our families, and a healthy sport we are so passionate about.
Wake up.
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New research gives insight into the minds of hunters
Sense of “achievement” is particularly dominant when hunters target carnivores.
Published on 2017 · 09 · 05 by Chris Darimont
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Researchers from the Raincoast Conservation Foundation and the University of Victoria have shed new light on what satisfies hunters. Reporting in the peer-reviewed journal Wildlife Society Bulletin, our former Honours student, Alena Ebeling-Schuld, led our research, which found that appreciation (of nature) and affiliation (bonding experiences with friends and family) are common but less pronounced ‘satisfactions’ expressed by hunters. The dominant satisfaction expressed in online hunting stories is achievement.
We found that this pattern is especially strong when carnivores, like wolves, cougars or grizzly bears, are targeted.
86% percent of carnivore hunting stories (compared with 81% of ungulate hunting stories) emphasized achievement as a dominant theme. When carnivores were targeted, appreciation satisfaction was the focus in only 3% of stories.
Most notably, almost half of carnivore stories had only one satisfaction present, 100% of which exhibited only achievement satisfaction.
Alena Ebeling-Schuld, now a practicing Conservation Geographer and professional photographer, states, “If these patterns expressed on hunting forums are representative of hunters on a broader scale, then there are clear differences between satisfactions associated with ungulate and carnivore hunts.”On the other side of the ledger, carnivores suffer and pay the ultimate cost. Tweet This!The greater level of difficulty associated with carnivore hunting might be key to understanding why achievement is more important than other satisfactions. These findings align with evolutionary theory I examined and applied with Evolutionary Anthropologists from the University of Utah last year in the paper “Why men trophy hunt”.
Seeking achievement evolved because successful hunts in our ancestral past – and nowadays – display qualities of interest to competitors and mates, like skill or wealth. Simply put, accomplishments bring status, which remains an all-important currency for men.
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Although there are clear wildlife management implications, I tend to think more about the more direct and practical ways that this information can be useful – today and in BC. By understanding a hunter’s satisfactions and motivations, we can ask bigger questions about our relationships with wildlife. Is a hunter’s feeling of achievement more important than, say, the life of a grizzly bear?
The reality is that hunters do not typically target grizzlies or other carnivores to feed their families. It is more about feeding their egos with the sense of achievement. We find ourselves in a moment of history when we are re-assessing our cultural and moral relationships to nature. These new results allows us to account for the benefits and costs that flow to those involved in hunting. Carnivore hunters benefit from a sense of achievement but not via not some basic need like food. On the other side of the ledger, carnivores suffer and pay the ultimate cost – with their lives.
To me, the path forward in BC is clear. Polling data have indicated that even hunters and those in rural areas, while supporting the privilege to hunt for food, are opposed to killing carnivores for trophy. A ‘fringe’ minority of hunters can no longer defend gratuitous killing of carnivores.
And other hunters interested in safeguarding a fragile social license afforded to hunting these days would benefit from speaking up. Their voices can join those presenting arguments from the perspective of ecology, economics, ethics and Indigenous law.
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Chris Darimont, PhD
Chris Darimont is the director of science at Raincoast, and the lead scientist at the Applied Conservation Science Lab at UVic. His work is in biology, evolution and ecology. You can find him on the coast, and sometimes in the waves, somewhere between San Diego and Haida Gwaii.
Well said Ourea ........ Pure trolls, time for EVERYONE to realize who these folks are and their agenda.....
jasmine ....or who ever you really are.... Prove your worth of being a true resident BC Hunter. And with that in support of full on BC wildlife sound management which includes predators G Bear, Wolf, Cougar, B bear plus more ..... If you really cared about all wildlife, you would quit hiding . Let's see your true colours, ...... For now your nothing but a Raincoast troll hell bent to throw us all under the bus. Starting with the G Bear hunt.
IMO ....... The evidence is full on.Troll.
CT
Selective comprehension at its finest. Posters don't often take the time to expound on all the emotions or rational of a hunt, , but the ilk of Raincoast would spin it the way they want however it is presentedQuote:
Researchers from the Raincoast Conservation Foundation and the University of Victoria have shed new light on what satisfies hunters. Reporting in the peer-reviewed journal Wildlife Society Bulletin, our former Honours student, Alena Ebeling-Schuld, led our research, which found that appreciation (of nature) and affiliation (bonding experiences with friends and family) are common but less pronounced ‘satisfactions’ expressed by hunters. The dominant satisfaction expressed in online hunting stories is achievement.
Doc Weaver and Jassmine hunt together ! :lol: RJ