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anyone know when the cattle in Reg 3 have to be in by?
gettin annoyed with grazing leases and cows everywhere, does anyone know when the farmers are supposed to have their cows in by?
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I think Nov 1st but don't quote me on that. Also they need to be moved if the stubble length has been met to prevent over grazing
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You can call the range officer for your area and get some good info from him or her on how they expect the rancher to use that paticular range.
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Where are you hunting?..If its region 3 or 5 ..Suck it up...After the fires cattle are scattered everywhere..Fences burned ...Give the ranchers a chance to find their lost animals..Dennis
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Professional reliance... gov can not force anything..
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If he is talking about hunting yes suck it up.
I assumed it was around his property which can be a pain in the ass.
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first weekish of October? my wife seems to recall.
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Logan
gettin annoyed with grazing leases and cows everywhere, does anyone know when the farmers are supposed to have their cows in by?
Anyone know when hunting season is over? Getting annoyed with trespassers and dickheads leaving my gates open. Does that sound as nice as your post?
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gcreek
Anyone know when hunting season is over? Getting annoyed with trespassers and dickheads leaving my gates open. Does that sound as nice as your post?
I don't know you, but I like they way you think
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Nov 1st...
So if you see a cow are they not then a non-native invasive pest species just saying 8-)
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gcreek
Anyone know when hunting season is over? Getting annoyed with trespassers and dickheads leaving my gates open. Does that sound as nice as your post?
Ha ha, now thats funny! How many ranchers trying to make a living have lost cattle or horses to morons and dip shits...
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Re: anyone know when the cattle in Reg 3 have to be in by?
Nov 1st...
So if you see a cow are they not then a non-native invasive pest species just saying :cool:
REALLY. MAYBE YOU SHOULD JUST STAY HOME!! just saying.
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****in cattle... dont belong in the forest
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RadHimself
****in cattle... dont belong in the forest
I pay the govt. over $12,000 per year to use that grass. How much do you pay to leave ruts all over?
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gcreek
Anyone know when hunting season is over? Getting annoyed with trespassers and dickheads leaving my gates open. Does that sound as nice as your post?
That right there is why we need a "Like" button on this forum!
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I'm sure if the ranchers had the power to close all leased land to the public they would.
If I had the power I would make sure all riparian areas inside the leased areas be fenced and free of cattle.
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Steve W
That right there is why we need a "Like" button on this forum!
Thank you.
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Timbow
I'm sure if the ranchers had the power to close all leased land to the public they would.
If I had the power I would make sure all riparian areas inside the leased areas be fenced and free of cattle.
It has been proven time and again that where cattle are not, the wildlife soon leaves also. It has to do with keeping plants young and fresh.
Some changes due to Forestry rules but it once meant ranchers could burn range in the spring to get rid of old grass and brush growth to make room for new but that hasn't happened much in the last 25 years or so. Part of the reason moose have left for the prairies? Part of the reason for the mega fires this year?
If cattle weren't in those areas I doubt you would be able to walk through them.
You entitled folk need to sit back and think about your comments before you put your comments in gear.
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gcreek
It has been proven time and again that where cattle are not, the wildlife soon leaves also. It has to do with keeping plants young and fresh.
Some changes due to Forestry rules but it once meant ranchers could burn range in the spring to get rid of old grass and brush growth to make room for new but that hasn't happened much in the last 25 years or so. Part of the reason moose have left for the prairies? Part of the reason for the mega fires this year?
If cattle weren't in those areas I doubt you would be able to walk through them.
You entitled folk need to sit back and think about your comments before you put your comments in gear.
Can you produce scientific data to back this up or is this your observation? I'm discussing the riparian areas, not the entire land scape.
I guess I'm just as entitled as you, just a different scope.
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Tim it is ridiculous to even imagine your suggestion..fencing riparian further fragments habitat and can you imagine the costs? As well current strategy with riparian is to leave timber as reserve..timber left next to creek in cutblock blows down..root wad tears up soil not unlike cattle leaving a mud hole which science suggest is good for creeks. Something that is ugly and messy is not necessarily bad and in an attempt to address one issue you end up smack into another .
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Just my 2 cent worth, I think it great that cattles are in forest. Look at all the poo and pee the cattles release I am sure it provides good organic nutrition to plants and trees.
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If you ranchers could make gates that are easier to close you'd probably have way less left open.
I've seen some real sh** fences that have taken me 5 minutes of wrangling the high strung barbed wire to get it to close.
I can totally see why people would just say "fu** it" and drive off.
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twoSevenO
If you ranchers could make gates that are easier to close you'd probably have way less left open.
I've seen some real sh** fences that have taken me 5 minutes of wrangling the high strung barbed wire to get it to close.
I can totally see why people would just say "fu** it" and drive off.
No way. No-one should go through a gate and not re-attach it immediately after proceeding through. I am not
a rancher, but a hunter. 5 minutes is OK if needed, I know there are some real abortions out there regarding gates, wired, wrapped numerous times, etc. But, someone did that for a reason, and you should have the respect enough to return it to its original state, before you got there.
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^ and they should have the respect not to rape my precious away-from-work time by making a proper gate.
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What? Now we want the ranchers pissed off at hunters. I can see why all the old timers have left HBC. Some people on here are their own worst selfish enemies!
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twoSevenO
^ and they should have the respect not to rape my precious away-from-work time by making a proper gate.
Most of mine are steel. Chain around the post and they actually swing. Some still don't have the time to close them. 4 rail barways in good condition seem to be troublesome also.
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gcreek
I pay the govt. over $12,000 per year to use that grass. How much do you pay to leave ruts all over?
It's called respect Dave... similar to common sense, it's becoming a super power.
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Rather than thinking about protecting your investment people bitch cause of the inconvenience of having to open a gate....
3 ranch hands in a truck... who is the true cowboy???
The one in the middle.. don't need to drive and don't need to mess with gates.. :)
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Not a big fan of cattle in the bush but it's a legal right of the rancher just like its legal for us to be out hunting. You may not want to see cattle in the bush but there is people who don't want hunters in the bush either.
As for the gate issue if it was worth your effort to open the gate it's worth your effort to close it
Play nice people and share the sand box
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rocksteady
It's called respect Dave... similar to common sense, it's becoming a super power.
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Rather than thinking about protecting your investment people bitch cause of the inconvenience of having to open a gate....
3 ranch hands in a truck... who is the true cowboy???
The one in the middle.. don't need to drive and don't need to mess with gates.. :)
True. Most who I come in contact with have both. As with ranchers, it is those without either attribute that make things difficult for the rest of us.
Two most common ideas are..
From the hunter side...... " Greedy Pr!$&s, they have all that land and won't let anyone on it."
From the rancher side. " I don't want any of those disrespectful idiots near anything that is mine."
Sad things have gotten this way but I do see both sides. Still going to stand on my side of the line until one from the other side proves different from the multitudes. Lots of you on here from both kinds.
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I think that if someone has an issue closing a gate because it is too difficult to do, then they are pretty self centered. I can't imagine how much effort must be involved in opening some of these troublesome gates. In the future they should save themselves the headache and turn around and not bother dealing with the problem gate in the first place. good grief Charlie brown
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My son and I pulled up to a gate in region 3 earlier this season. We mistakenly thought we weren't allowed to open it so we turned around and left. We've literally never seen a gate like that before on the island and weren't sure what the protocol was.
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gcreek
Most of mine are steel. Chain around the post and they actually swing. Some still don't have the time to close them. 4 rail barways in good condition seem to be troublesome also.
That's awesome but there are some real atrocities out there people call "gates". Unfortunately, you'll always have those who won't close them ... just like we'll always have people who can't stop flinging beer cans out the window.
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I have a bundle of hay wire in my truck, use it just like duct tape. I have a problem with a range gate, I bust out the leatherman, and I ensure it works before I leave it! Sure hate to see a rancher lose a cow out there, its a hard enough way to make a living. That being said, I sure don't get much cooperation when I knock on a door to ask for permission to hunt for an elk. Sure hate getting lumped with the dyckheads! Moosin
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IslandWanderer
My son and I pulled up to a gate in region 3 earlier this season. We mistakenly thought we weren't allowed to open it so we turned around and left. We've literally never seen a gate like that before on the island and weren't sure what the protocol was.
If it's open leave it ops. If it's closed close it behind you.. if in doubt close it..
Most ranchers won't complain if you close a gate that they want open but Will if you leave a closed gate open..
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moosinaround
I have a bundle of hay wire in my truck, use it just like duct tape. I have a problem with a range gate, I bust out the leatherman, and I ensure it works before I leave it! Sure hate to see a rancher lose a cow out there, its a hard enough way to make a living. That being said, I sure don't get much cooperation when I knock on a door to ask for permission to hunt for an elk. Sure hate getting lumped with the dyckheads! Moosin
Eventually karma will come to you Moosin.. a good deed never hurt anyone..
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twoSevenO
If you ranchers could make gates that are easier to close you'd probably have way less left open.
I've seen some real sh** fences that have taken me 5 minutes of wrangling the high strung barbed wire to get it to close.
I can totally see why people would just say "fu** it" and drive off.
Yeah, some of those tight gates sure require some upper body strength to get the loop on the post
easily remedied with a short piece of rope
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Re: anyone know when the cattle in Reg 3 have to be in by?
If the cows have to off the range land by a certain time, can/should the gates be left open?
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Alright just to settle everyone's wadded up panties over my post.... I am just wondering because some areas I hunted for years just recently got "no hunting grazing lease" signs put up, and I did some research and found out that once there is no cattle on the lease the sign is void. I don't burn out on the grass, I don't move fences.... I park in one spot and walk down this buried fibre optic cable line that runs through the grazing lease.
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h, If you find it open , leave it open
its not your decision whether to leave open any gate.
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gcreek
Anyone know when hunting season is over? Getting annoyed with trespassers and dickheads leaving my gates open. Does that sound as nice as your post?
Where is the "like" button. Nice comeback.
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Originally Posted by
twoSevenO
If you ranchers could make gates that are easier to close you'd probably have way less left open.
I've seen some real sh** fences that have taken me 5 minutes of wrangling the high strung barbed wire to get it to close.
I can totally see why people would just say "fu** it" and drive off.
Never ever ever ever. If it's closed and you struggle to open it, you struggle to close it. Every time.
Perhaps to help you out. I use a short length of rope with a pulley on one end of it. A quick throw around the post and gate post, feed the rope through the pulley and I have leverage. I you can't leave it as you found it, leave it alone.