Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
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Originally Posted by
ElectricDyck
In this day and age the structure for conservation takes care of itself through legal hunting fishing methods enforcdd by the law...
The real fight is for the right to hunt, posess firearms and to fish..
I dont come from a hunting family but at age 30 i took the core course i thought the ethics portion taught us to be ashamed of hunting. Its my understanding the bcwf wrote the core?
Whos fighting for hunting and fishing?
I don’t have the same faith in our wildlife management but not into debates on that at this time
I did grow up in a hunting family and no doubt a generation of hunters thought flying under the radar, hiding from the public and doing what they could to not offend the public would keep their hunting heritage safe. Well in my opinion this backfired big time. I don’t blame the BCWF for this or the ethnics portion in the core. Trappers took the same approach when being faced with antis and now pay for it
As for who is fighting for hunting in BC said it many times we have no true voice. Till the hunting community can all admit this and focus on building one we are screwed
Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
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Originally Posted by
ElectricDyck
I dont come from a hunting family but at age 30 i took the core course i thought the ethics portion taught us to be ashamed of hunting. Its my understanding the bcwf wrote the core?
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Originally Posted by
Wild one
I don’t have the same faith in our wildlife management but not into debates on that at this time
I did grow up in a hunting family and no doubt a generation of hunters thought flying under the radar, hiding from the public and doing what they could to not offend the public would keep their hunting heritage safe. Well in my opinion this backfired big time. I don’t blame the BCWF for this or the ethnics portion in the core. Trappers took the same approach when being faced with antis and now pay for it
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I sorta agree with the ethics part of the core course almost teaching us to be ashamed. Wild one explained it pretty well.
There was a time when the prevailing attitude was "be discrete" about hunting and shooting. People thought that would get anti hunters and gun people to forget about them, when all it really did was turn hunting and shooting into a "dirty little secret" which always makes people fear and loathe you.
The only way to make advancements is use the same tactics as women, minorities and gays used- Be visible, blow your own horn and control the dialogue.
Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
very accurate, totally agree.
Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
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Originally Posted by
Wild one
I don’t have the same faith in our wildlife management but not into debates on that at this time
I did grow up in a hunting family and no doubt a generation of hunters thought flying under the radar, hiding from the public and doing what they could to not offend the public would keep their hunting heritage safe. Well in my opinion this backfired big time. I don’t blame the BCWF for this or the ethnics portion in the core. Trappers took the same approach when being faced with antis and now pay for it
As for who is fighting for hunting in BC said it many times we have no true voice. Till the hunting community can all admit this and focus on building one we are screwed
Couldn't agree more! How are we as a community supposed to protect what we hold dear, when we don't have a unified voice? The infighting and posturing with regards to each individual group is what is splitting the hunting/fishing community apart. We all need to band together and present one voice loud and proud!
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might be time to have a responsible harvester parade in every majour city in bc...
agreed take the head out of the sand...
my daughter took deer antlers for show and tell.... the vigian kids went actually physically violent over it...
my daughter did not back down she said this is how we live i do not judge how you live...
i had to tell my son to back down saying my food poohs on your food...
time to head up a responsible harvester parade.
Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
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Originally Posted by
Gateholio
Be visible, blow your own horn and control the dialogue.
I agree. It's important to be prepared for meaningful discussions. On that note, I hope everyone has commented on the BC Gov't Engage website on the path forward for wildlife and habitat management.
Many hunters and fishers can run circles around 'enviros' when it comes to knowledge of wildlife and conservation. It's important to incorporate this information and not get caught up in the emotional, non-rational debates.
I've always admired Steve's response to a vegan zealot in the exchange below.
https://youtu.be/J2N0Utg7KYE
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environmentalists prefer to get their protein from tofu grown on former South American rainforest lands
TOFU is made not grown :-)
Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
More BCWF drama ......... Way to go.
For those that think BCWF is their own saviour to our hunting and fishing rights as residents of BC , get your head outa your backside.
BCWF is a non profit organization that along with several others that are trying to help Fish and Wildlife province wide.
It also represents outdoors folk from hunters to hikers, fishermen and women to gold panners, boaters to rock climbers. It also attempts to help keep access to the back country, rivers and lakes for all of us. Hunters and Non hunters included.
Its NOT a Sole hunting club as so many think or should I say expect. What a joke.
Over too many years to remember, the BCWF has done more for Habitat, for conservation, for fish and wildlife, Province wide than any other organization.
Its not not called the BCHunter Federation. Maybe the OP can start a new Fed that can SAVE all things threatening hunters and fishers way of life and all the bitchers and complainers that have nothing else to do with there time then slam those trying to make a differance with our Fish and Wildlife.
It it may be hard for some or several to wrap your head around, BUT ........ It's not all about you..... It's about Fish and Wildlife for generations to come, for all to enjoy ........ And the fine line walked for its use, and its future.
If you think you can do bigger better things ....... Take your head outa your butt and get involved.
I say again, thanks to the BCWF for all you've done in the past, and continue to do.
The self righteous attitude of many never seems surprise me.
Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
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Originally Posted by
curly top
More BCWF drama ......... Way to go.
For those that think BCWF is their own saviour to our hunting and fishing rights as residents of BC , get your head outa your backside.
BCWF is a non profit organization that along with several others that are trying to help Fish and Wildlife province wide.
It also represents outdoors folk from hunters to hikers, fishermen and women to gold panners, boaters to rock climbers. It also attempts to help keep access to the back country, rivers and lakes for all of us. Hunters and Non hunters included.
Its NOT a Sole hunting club as so many think or should I say expect. What a joke.
Over too many years to remember, the BCWF has done more for Habitat, for conservation, for fish and wildlife, Province wide than any other organization.
Its not not called the BCHunter Federation. Maybe the OP can start a new Fed that can SAVE all things threatening hunters and fishers way of life and all the bitchers and complainers that have nothing else to do with there time then slam those trying to make a differance with our Fish and Wildlife.
It it may be hard for some or several to wrap your head around, BUT ........ It's not all about you..... It's about Fish and Wildlife for generations to come, for all to enjoy ........ And the fine line walked for its use, and its future.
If you think you can do bigger better things ....... Take your head outa your butt and get involved.
I say again, thanks to the BCWF for all you've done in the past, and continue to do.
The self righteous attitude of many never seems surprise me.
You are correct the BCWF is not a hunting organization or the voice of hunters or defending hunters rights. Unfortunately many gave support to the BCWF thinking they were the voice of BC hunters and here to defend our hunting rights
Maybe you are correct it is time for an actual hunting organization in BC
Re: BCWF gives hunters the middle finger
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Originally Posted by
Wild one
You are correct the BCWF is not a hunting organization or the voice of hunters or defending hunters rights. Unfortunately many gave support to the BCWF thinking they were the voice of BC hunters and here to defend our hunting rights
Maybe you are correct it is time for an actual hunting organization in BC
A louder voice supporting hunting heritage is always a good thing.
More messaging, one that reflects respect for the resource, the sustainability, the need to invest, the need to protect habitat....delivered on a professional platform. Put a bow on it and sell it.
I have said this before and I will say it again, you have to bring resources to the table in today's world if you wish to implement awareness and change. The "because it's right" expectation simply doesn't work.
Nor does blaming the Fed, wildlife bio's, FN, Gov, or anyone for that matter.
Complaining for change without a clear plan, or the resources to make it happen...well, you have nothing more than a tall ladder without steps (it gets you nowhere).
Fracturing a community into tribes is not a viable solution in my opinion.
History has proven this time and time again.