Re: Is are government making close door deals to make all the crown land indigenous
I think there is some confusion from the new chapter, in that it says that most of BC is either reserve, treaty land or "traditional territory".
It then says that hunters will almost always be on someone's reserve, treaty lands or traditional territory.
That's been interpreted by some (in my opinion incorrectly) as there being no more crown land, but I think that comes from the inclusion of the term "traditional territory".
Reserves and title lands are not crown land, and should probably be thought of as private property.
Traditional territory is a different thing. It isn't a legal thing. More than 100% of BC is claimed as one nation or another's traditional territory.
For now I think it's safe to say you don't need permission to hunt traditional territory unless it's also either reserve or treaty/title lands. That's still most of BC.
However, as land claims are settled we will lose crown land and access to it, so keep paying attention.
I'll addd that these concerns are not being ignored, but there isn't always a lot that we can do (we lack a bunch of power and tools).
Re: Is are government making close door deals to make all the crown land indigenous
All that said, if the question is "Is govt making behind closed door deals with Fns?" I think the answer is "I bet they are, and will continue to do so".
Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters
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IronNoggin
What makes you think that is not already happening??
Nog
Yup happening right now !
Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters
If any one wants to know how twisted the "church of woke social justice" as i call them are........have a look inside their ideology through this mandatory city of Seattle course for white employees for "undoing their whiteness". "The goal is to teach them how they have "complicity in the system of white supremacy" and must be held "accountable to Black, Indigenous, and People of Color."
seriously, you need to understand this in the context of land giveaways to know the types currently in the drivers seat......this ideology has more and more permeated the west, city councils, governments.
"The City of Seattle held a training session for white employees called “Interrupting Internalized Racial Superiority and Whiteness.”So I did a public records request to find out exactly what this means. Let's go through it together in this thread.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...846653953.html
You think people guided by this ^ realm of ideology won't be happy to hand over your backcountry?
Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters
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Sirloin
People really need to speak up.
Get their MPs involved. get lawyers.
NOW
there are cult of social justice politicians willing to give up anything on behalf of their woke justice missions...
Why would anyone do any of this? If recent events have thought us anything, is that we should riot, loot, and kill to get our way. That seems to work?????
Re: Is are government making close door deals to make all the crown land indigenous
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Mulies
government giving away my freedoms behind my back.
opposed to what? Taking theirs away in the first place?
So you read an article, that was posted... on what? Facebook? Yeah that’s a reliable source of accurate information.
Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters
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RugDoctor
Why would anyone do any of this? If recent events have thought us anything, is that we should riot, loot, and kill to get our way. That seems to work?????
Only works when those in power share your ideology
Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters
Yeah will wait until they try to enforce it...SWHTF....If you poke the lion enough times it will eat you!!
Could get scary!
Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters
Just hunt anyways.
I do find it beyond bizarre that the Government in this Country, whether Federal or Provincial...can even begin to talk down to its Citizens about how racist we are and we need to change our thinking. When this Racism that they search for and find in its Citizenry, is actually inherent in the very institution's that we call Government.
Re: Urgent notice to bc hunters
well, all the first nations and their woke supporters should, as the old saying goes....."be careful what they wish for"
I have ALWAYS been a follower of the rules in general, but especially when it comes to my hunting and fishing. Have things gotten progressively tougher in that regard? yup....but with a bit of hard work I can still put some salmon, halibut, moose, deer, bear etc in my freezer. My family came to north america in the very early 1600's and were involved in NATION BUILDING activities like surveying the first trans canada telegraph lines....when the day comes that they hand it all over to the FN's and tell me i'm no longer ALLOWED to feed my family in the way my family has done here for 400 years......well....i suppose i'll become a criminal. I suspect a HUGE number of folks just like me will as well and it will just become a free for all. Good luck trying to police the tens of thousands of miles of backroads in this province with a woefully understaffed and unmotivated C.O. service. If the bands figure i'm gonna go ask permission, and pay them a fee......not gonna happen.....but I WILL have game in my freezer one way or another.
JMO