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CanAm500
03-20-2006, 05:39 PM
With the bear season opening pretty quick, and with me just getting into hunting big game. Is there a web site/diagrams that will tell you how to gut/field dress a animal?


I know it sounds stupid, but sorry.

hutch
03-20-2006, 05:55 PM
you can actually get all 4 quarters and back strips off your bear without gutting it unless you want to save the hide. no blood or guts to deal with. just skin around the quarters and take the legs then run your knife down the spine and peel back the skin and take the strips and any other meat that you want. I believe by law you must take 4 quarters and strips at minimum, I try to take everything that I can.

Kirby
03-20-2006, 07:05 PM
you can actually get all 4 quarters and back strips off your bear without gutting it unless you want to save the hide. no blood or guts to deal with. just skin around the quarters and take the legs then run your knife down the spine and peel back the skin and take the strips and any other meat that you want. I believe by law you must take 4 quarters and strips at minimum, I try to take everything that I can.

You can do the gutless method, and still save the hide. Its alot easier than dragging the bear out.
Here is a link to a site, and some pics.
http://www.outdoorsdirectory.com/magazine/blbcare.htm

In the regs is says all edible meat must be taken, IMO, 4 quarters, backstaps, tenderloins, and neck, and depending on how busted the ribs are you can take them too, but legally they can be left behind.

Kirby

CanAm500
03-20-2006, 08:04 PM
Ok thanks.

Just to ask, what does guttin a bear smell like?

lol, cant believe i just asked that lol.

270WIN
03-20-2006, 08:40 PM
icpaintballer I found most the bears i seen taken when gutted smell like fresh cut grass. i hav a funny story for you my first big game animal was a black bear i was around 21-22 when i shot it been hunting since i was 13 dad took me on lots of trips but we were never lucky enough to get any thing. any was dad decided to stay home and i buddy and i were off first time with out dad and my buddy i think it was his first time hunting any way we were driving down the road and he spotted a black bear just sitting eating blue berrys well i got out it was a face on shot i took and i ended up gut shooting him well i hit the whit pactch on his chest and the bullit put a big hole in hime i was 10-15 yrd away with a 270 150 grain bullet any ways bear rooled and ran up a hill we found him few minutes later and well time to see if all the reading of books paid of on how to clean an animal well it was all fine prety easy acwaly and then i went to wash my hand and they were stained blue i could not figer it out i was excited i final got my first anilam but worried as you hear bears carrie desisus so an way we are on are way home and i all worried what kind of desisus i got from this bear we swing buy my dads to show my bear not big 5 1/2 footer and i showing my dad my hads telling him i scared i cought somting from this bear my dad calmly asked wear i shot the bear told him i think i cut shot it dad then asks what the bear was eating i explained blue berries and my dad with a little sniker well son when you eat fresh blue berry do your figer tips turn blue well i just put my head down walked a way thinking i was a dork. any ways just thought i would share that storie one of my best memirys of hunting and i sure many more to come

mark
03-20-2006, 08:41 PM
i have some better advise than the other guys and im sure they will agree. if your an amatuer hunter or rookie to big game, YOU SHOULDNT BE BEAR HUNTING BY YOURSELF!!! its not advisable to anyone really but especially a newbie. bearhunting is not sacred or secretive like other animals (eg. big bucks) most any hunter should be happy to aid you in yer first bear. to answer yer quo gutting most any animal isnt much different than gutting a fish. but bears do stink and they are my least favorite thing to gut!! :|

270WIN
03-20-2006, 08:46 PM
mark i think smell may be diffrent for ever one or some people may have weaker or stronger sense of smell i am sure fish bear stink but i would not know i never shot a fish bear most of the bears i seen taken and i have taken one my self did not stink at all i find for me personal grouse in early oct stink worse then any big game animal i have ever delt with

CanAm500
03-20-2006, 08:47 PM
270win, great story. What kinda of dieses do bears carry? And are they harmful to us?

Mark, I deffinanlty wont be hunting alone. My neighbour will be backing me with with a 7mm Rem Mag. I of course will be using my 270win.

CanAm500
03-20-2006, 08:48 PM
mark i think smell may be diffrent for ever one or some people may have weaker or stronger sense of smell i am sure fish bear stink but i would not know i never shot a fish bear most of the bears i seen taken and i have taken one my self did not stink at all i find for me personal grouse in early oct stink worse then any big game animal i have ever delt with

To me, grouse when gutting smell like chicken.

Bear and deer cant be that bad to gut?

270WIN
03-20-2006, 08:52 PM
270win, great story. What kinda of dieses do bears carry? And are they harmful to us?

Mark, I deffinanlty wont be hunting alone. My neighbour will be backing me with with a 7mm Rem Mag. I of course will be using my 270win.

i know bear carrie the same dieses as pig and all you have to do is cook the meat well i dont think there any thing else that can harm humans but that and for some reason the name slips my mind of that dieses

Kirby
03-20-2006, 09:32 PM
270win, great story. What kinda of dieses do bears carry? And are they harmful to us?

Tricinosis, parasitic worms that live in the muscle tissue of bears and pigs.
Cook it well, and you are safe.

Kirby

CanAm500
03-20-2006, 09:50 PM
Alright, good to know then. 160 degrees is that the temperature that kills it?

CanAm500
03-21-2006, 03:03 PM
What can you get the bear meat turned into?

I know you can get it turned into peperoni and bear burgers (how do they taste?).

MichelD
03-21-2006, 03:21 PM
What do they smell like when you gut 'em? The inside of a freshly killed animal. Not quite so sweet as a deer.

In May when you're up close, an older boar has a kind of swampy slightly sour odour. On the outside. You can even smell it if you're hunting one in close quarter but can't see him.

Bear meat is made to be married with garlic and onions and a bit of paprika.

Ground up it is wonderful in spaghetti sauce, lasagna, patties, meat balls etc.

We've had this discussion many times, so I won't go on too much. Look in the recipe section.

It makes great stew and roasts too. One thing I don't do, which others seem to like is have it made into sausage.

I find most commercial sausage made from game all tastes the same and I wouldn't want to ruin nice bear meat by doing that to it.

rocksteady
03-21-2006, 03:21 PM
If you have any intentions of getting a bear turned into a rug and or a head mount, go see your local taxidermist, and he will show (and probably give you a diagram) of how to skin it for its best mount......

If you are going for the meat, don't worry about the hide, just gut it like you would a deer/elk/moose.....

Also read page 8 of the regs BEARS_ BC's Bear Parts Trade Ban -2nd and 3rd bullet....

"....forbids the possession.....bear galls, including any part or derivative of the gall bladder or genitalia......" "...remove gall bladder and leave it at site of the kill.....or dispose of gut pile within 48 hours including the gall bladder".....

If you are not sure 100% what this means, call your local conservation officer

NEEHAMA
03-21-2006, 04:05 PM
i was curious, i know how taboo the whole bear gall blader trade thing is but could you shoot your own bear and take home all the parts you want? what if your personally into the whole gall blader thing yourself? it is your bear. if you had the tag and the meat all together could you bring home your own gall bladder and smoke it yourself? or what ever they do, make soup ? whatever. it's your bear right?

CanAm500
03-21-2006, 04:14 PM
Ok thanks MichelD, just wanting to know what a bear could be turned into and that list you gave me was great!

Rocksteady, I have read the section on the bears and completely understand.

MichelD
03-21-2006, 04:30 PM
Page 8 of the regulations synopsis:

"The BC regulation forbids the possession, trafficking, importing and exporting of bear galls, ... etc."

rocksteady
03-22-2006, 07:45 AM
NEEHAMA, I would talk to the CO's..I do not believe you are even allowed to possess for "personal Use"...They could clear it up....

Usually the galls are dried (at a very specific temperature) and after dried, they are ground up and made into a tea that is supposed to act like a natural version of Viagra (if you know what I mean).....Personally, not for me thanks....

lcpaintballer, just didn't want to see you get busted for something like that......Its kind of a weird legislation, and a lot depends on how each CO interprets it....What happens if you get rid of it after 60 hours versus 48? Are you committing an offense???:?: :?:

MichelD
03-22-2006, 09:43 AM
It's actually a popular myth that oriental medicine uses bear galls for aphrodisiacs.





The South Korean Market for Bear Gall Bladders


Bear parts have been used in traditional Chinese medicine (TCM) for centuries. The bile stored in the gallbladders of bears is the only bear product commonly found in Chinese 'materia medica' today. Results of a regional TRAFFIC investigation in East Asia in 1995 fuelled concerns that trade in bear gallbladders may continue to place pressure on declining wild bear populations. One country in the region is highlighted here: the Republic of (South) Korea. By J.A. MILLS, T.S. KANG, S. LEE, R. PARRY-JONES, AND M. PHIPPS

TCM doctors prescribe bear bile to treat illnesses ranging from liver cancer (Mills and Servheen, 1991) to haemorrhoids to conjunctivitis (Bensky and Gamble, 1993). A particular bile acid found in bear bile (ursodeoxycholic acid, or UDCA) has been both synthesized and medically proven to be effective in treating numerous human illnesses, including gallstones (Mills and Servheen, 1991), hepatitis, and cirrhosis (Sano, 1995). In August 1996, TRAFFIC East Asia conducted a follow-up survey in China, Hong Kong, The Republic of Korea, and Taiwan. The findings of this investigation indicate that Asian demand for bear gallbladders and bile remains strong. The demand for bear gallbladders and bile as medicine is particularly worrisome in relation to Asia's bear species, most of which are listed in CITES Appendix I. These include the Asiatic Black Bear Ursus thibetanus, the Brown Bear Ursus arctos populations of Bhutan, China, and Mongolia, the Sun Bear Helarctos malayanus, and the Sloth Bear Melursus ursinus.

CanAm500
03-22-2006, 02:32 PM
What happens if you get rid of it after 60 hours versus 48? Are you committing an offense???:?: :?:

Technically yes because the law says 48 :wink:

I read/showed my dad that lastnight.

NEEHAMA
03-22-2006, 04:17 PM
WOW sounds like bear bile is a wonder drug! now cause i can't have it i want it! i want to bring some home and make bear bile tea damn it! i can't utilize my own bear because a few bad apple's in black market chinese medicine spoiled it for me!

CanAm500
03-22-2006, 05:32 PM
WOW sounds like bear bile is a wonder drug! now cause i can't have it i want it! i want to bring some home and make bear bile tea damn it! i can't utilize my own bear because a few bad apple's in black market chinese medicine spoiled it for me!

:eek: lol:lol:

Foxer
03-31-2006, 12:26 AM
hehehehe - welcome to the wonderful world of gov't hunting beurocracy Nee :)

Amusingly enough, it may not even have been someone here that ruined it. The bear parts thing is part of CITES - which is an international agreement to stop animal part smuggling.

Considering bc has about 1/4 of the entire worlds population of black bears - i doubt any poachers were in any danger of putting our population at risk.