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Marc
02-04-2009, 06:43 PM
One of my friends was going to through used Victoria looking for a deal on some hunting equipment whe he stumbled on to this add.


Hi

I'm looking for some property owners ( fields Etc) that have geese/ducks at his land. I have all the legal papers that one needs to hunt or carry a weapon (gun or a bow)

Thanks,
This is the picture that was with the ad.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Marshall_Geese.jpg

Hmm, this picture looks familar? It even had the HuntingBC water mark in the ad. So I figured I'd play his game and get someone to send an email off to this chap to see if I could get at least a name.

Here is the email and his reply.


Hi there ducks and geese sound good,yes you are allowed to hunt ducks and geese when they are in season.Duck and geese season was over as of last week. It will reopen again on feb 21 or so.If you like there can be as little as two people or many as five people at one time.No the dog belongs to a friend of mine, great hunter. If you like to eat ducks and geese I could clean them for you as well,in return for you allowing us on your property. Please let us know when would be the best time for you.
CHEERS!




> Subject: UsedVictoria.com: Buyers Question - LAND FOR HUNTING*
> To: styles_133@msn.com
> From: info@usedeverywhere.com
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:54:56 -0600
>
>says: Hi. I may be able to help you out. I have some land here on Vancouver Island that has ducks and geese on it all the time. Are you allowed to hunt canadian geese in Canada? I thought they were illegal to hunt?
> How often were you thinking of hunting it and when is the hunting season. How many of you would be on my property? Is that your dog? Is it well trained? I would not want it to bother my livestock? Get back to me as I am seriously considering it. Would you be able to give me a few ducks and geese for the use of the land?
>


I've never met this person let alone hunted with him. He lied even when asked about the dog in the picture. This why it's so hard for us honest people out there to get permission to hunt. Because some people don't have the common decency to tell the truth and have to steal other peoples pictures from the internet and using the HuntingBC watermark to portray that they are decent law abiding hunters but in reality they lie through there teeth to try and get a piece of land to hunt on.

The email address is in the quotation if anyone wants to give him a piece of their mind.

Marc.

ultramagbob
02-04-2009, 06:47 PM
LOL awsome.

TIKA 300
02-04-2009, 06:53 PM
Like Jim Carey said L O O O O O SER
What a thing to pull.....

riflebuilder
02-04-2009, 06:55 PM
that is a good looking dog Marc. Is he really trained that well to just go hunt for others? Do you charge rent on him? It really sucks to have someone steal your dog even if it is jus a picture.

Ddog
02-04-2009, 06:59 PM
1 email sent by ddog and i think i am going to cut and copy it and send it 1000 more times, lol

Crazy_Farmer
02-04-2009, 07:00 PM
Very unclassy. Even stealing your picture is grounds for being pissed since they used it to "show" how good they were. Obvisiously they are just jealous since they dont have a picture of their own.

Sad thing though, is since you posted this here, they'll probably read it now, how else would they of found the picture in the first place. Should've had him come visit you first, and put him in his place.

Almost as bad as the internet scouters. :rolleyes::rolleyes: Trying to find locations from the backgrounds in pictures.

NaStY
02-04-2009, 07:08 PM
Yup that sucks for sure.

Personally i would have tried to "stick it to them" first before posting......

Mr. Dean
02-04-2009, 07:08 PM
Steeleco and Elkhound put me up to it.... Its not my fault. :sad:




:razz:


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bsa30-06
02-04-2009, 07:11 PM
Marc, have you called this guy out and heard what he had to say about this, heard his explanation for being a looser.Is there anything you can do to prevent your picture from being run in the add again?

Marc
02-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Yup that sucks for sure.

Personally i would have tried to "stick it to them" first before posting......

I've got a name and some other information on this guy. If I didn't have what I needed I wouldn't have posted up.:wink:

I've also sent a complaint to Used Victoria so I don't expect the add to be up much longer.

ruger#1
02-04-2009, 07:17 PM
Very sad indeed, not a good thing to do , nail him with a copy write issue.

Shooter
02-04-2009, 07:18 PM
Well if he got the picture from here then he must be someone who frequents the site......... DUN DUN DUN.... The plot thickens.

870
02-04-2009, 07:19 PM
yeah, I want to read the e-mail of you calling him out and the response.

nice picture by the way!

Steeleco
02-04-2009, 07:19 PM
Is he a soon to be "Banned" member??

bsa30-06
02-04-2009, 07:22 PM
Is he a soon to be "Banned" member??

That thought crossed my mind aswell....member or lurker.

ultramagbob
02-04-2009, 07:24 PM
Is he a soon to be "Banned" member??

I dont hunt ducks:razz:

Ddog
02-04-2009, 08:10 PM
everybody just keep emailing his address!! so even if he does get a real reply it will take him hours to find it..

Jimbo
02-04-2009, 09:02 PM
dog belongs to a friend of mine, great hunter.


Marc, is this guy an aquaintance of one of your hunting buddies ?

Looks like Marshall is still opening doors for you. LOL

Marc
02-04-2009, 09:08 PM
dog belongs to a friend of mine, great hunter.


Marc, is this guy an aquaintance of one of your hunting buddies ?

Looks like Marshall is still opening doors for you. LOL

I've asked around and no one seems to know him. I know the people who have hunted over Marshall and this guy isn't one of them.

Elkhound
02-04-2009, 09:11 PM
The guy is a slime...makes me want to flood his email with porn

Ddog
02-04-2009, 10:05 PM
just thought you all might be interested in the reply i got from him,:

Hey Daryl! Im Sorry you feel that way. The pic was not ment to misslead anyone. I know who is in the pic. Yes I also told one of them im using the pic. Is that fine with you??
CHEERS!!!!!!!!!!!



> To: styles_133@msn.com
> From: daryll@shaw.ca
> Subject: hunting
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:59:12 -0600
>
> so you think it is a good idea to lie in order for you to get
> permission?, this is exactly the kind of person we dont need in the
> hunting community, liars.
> do you think it is necessary for you to post a picture that doesnt
> belong to you.. if i was
> you i would seriously consider apologizing to the owner of the picture.
> you know where it came from.

NaStY
02-04-2009, 10:09 PM
The guy is a slime...makes me want to flood his email with porn


Problem is he might like it.....

I say everyone just spam the heck out of his email like what was suggested..

Steeleco
02-04-2009, 10:09 PM
Show no mercy D!!!

The Dawg
02-04-2009, 10:14 PM
I had fun with his email addy :)

Go to Adult Friend Finder and look up the user name ..... LionBast*rd4life , based out of 'Mancouver' :)

ElkMasterC
02-04-2009, 10:37 PM
The guy is a slime...makes me want to flood his email with porn


Hey, I'm slime too!

And so is Ultramagbob!

We're total douchebags!

Let us have it, we deserve it!

Give us your worst!

killman
02-04-2009, 10:38 PM
I had fun with his email addy :)

Go to Adult Friend Finder and look up the user name ..... LionBast*rd4life , based out of 'Mancouver' :)


first of all why do you know of this site?

Second, couldn't find that username NoahDawg was everywhere though!:-P

BIGHUNTERFISH
02-04-2009, 11:05 PM
If Marc has a problem with this guy then he should deal with it one on one.To tell members to email him and harrass him sounds absolutely childish.I do not advocate what this guy did,but there is a proper way to deal with problems in a mature sensible way,instead of people slandering the guy publicly.

Brambles
02-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Tell him that you are willing to let him hunt your land, and to stop by and talk to you in person about it.

6060 Canada AVE, DUNCAN B.C.

kootenayelkslayer
02-04-2009, 11:13 PM
If Marc has a problem with this guy then he should deal with it one on one.To tell members to email him and harrass him sounds absolutely childish.I do not advocate what this guy did,but there is a proper way to deal with problems in a mature sensible way,instead of people slandering the guy publicly.

...Agreed!

HuntNHookSports
02-04-2009, 11:31 PM
On the bright side, it is a compliment. The loser was trying to seem hardcore so he pretended to be Marc. You are someone's hero.

Ddog
02-04-2009, 11:40 PM
he was very angry in his last response to me, told me to back off or else. he said try and "F" with him one more time.
he did name Marc as the owner but then again that was only 1 of 3 questions i asked him.

and just for the record Marc did not TELL anybody to email him. He simply posted if "anybody wants to"

sneg
02-05-2009, 10:03 AM
It is sad story. but guess it downside of internet.Hopefully guy will learn his lesson.

Ron.C
02-05-2009, 10:35 AM
If Marc has a problem with this guy then he should deal with it one on one.To tell members to email him and harrass him sounds absolutely childish.I do not advocate what this guy did,but there is a proper way to deal with problems in a mature sensible way,instead of people slandering the guy publicly.


Yep, if the guys did this without Marc's ok, then that's wrong. It sure doesn't say much about his character. But as per above, let Marc Deal with it. I'm sure he is more than capable of doing so.

Elkhound
02-05-2009, 10:38 AM
Marc did not tell anyone to do anything. Some members just decided to let the guy know that the hunting community is small one and what he did was wrong.

Marc went through the proper legal channels of getting the guy's post removed and telling him to remove the pic.

3kills
02-05-2009, 03:42 PM
hmm he is on face book...

Mr. Dean
02-05-2009, 04:17 PM
This thread is HILARIOUS! :lol: :lol: :lol:


Too bad I don't 'facebook'.

riflebuilder
02-05-2009, 04:28 PM
I bet by now he has learned a lesson. Let Marc deal with him.

500grhollowpoint
02-05-2009, 05:25 PM
Lol what a loser...

Marc
02-05-2009, 07:55 PM
Hey Daryl! Im Sorry you feel that way. The pic was not ment to misslead anyone. I know who is in the pic. Yes I also told one of them im using the pic. Is that fine with you??
CHEERS!!!!!!!!!

This is interesting. He says " I know who is in the pic ", is it just me or does anyone else see someone recognizable in this picture? (besides the dog)

http://www.huntingbc.ca/photos/data/500/Marshall_Geese.jpg

No one asked me, the person who owns the dog, who owns and took the picture, if they could use it in an add on the internet.

Lets say that this guy got permission to hunt on someones land and destroyed something, shot something out of season or killed someones live stock. This is my reputation this guy is messing with and yes I'm pretty pissed off about how he went about it.

I wanted to make sure that this thread got the proper coverage in case someone did see the add and checked the site because of the watermark on the picture and checked out the dog threads and hunting pictures knew it wasn't me posting the add up.

He seems to be a young hunter and hopefully he's learned from this and won't try it in the future. Permission to hunt private land is hard enough to get without having someone out there ruining your chances for you.

Marc.

Crazy_Farmer
02-05-2009, 08:06 PM
Exactly Marc, thats the problem with taking others out you dont know or trust to private land. You dont know if they'll come back the next week, just hunt it without permission and when asked they just say, Yeah I know so and so, they said I could hunt here. And pretty soon, its your reputation on the line, its alot easier for owners to just say no to everybody then let a few they trust hunt.

Good work though clearing it up! :mrgreen:

3kills
02-06-2009, 10:03 PM
interesting that on his facebook he has another pic of marshell and the geese and 4 hunters in the back ground didnt see him in the pic though...

3kills
02-06-2009, 10:26 PM
marc did u find out who this guy is?? he was a member at one time was he not??!!

longshot
02-08-2009, 07:04 PM
I just saw this thread now and made sure I read every word. How horrible of an experience to go through. Can't believe it. I feel sad and angry at the same time. (A little more on the angry side!) I hope it gets sorted out.

Longshot jr.

Johnnybear
02-09-2009, 12:37 AM
the email address is in the quotation if anyone wants to give him a piece of their mind.

Marc.


Marc did not tell anyone to do anything.

I think he wanted folks to.

I think this is a prime example of what the internet is capable of. I feel for Marc and Marshall for mis reprensentation. The guy is a douche bag. If is he a member of this site I like many would like to know who they are.

I hope that this all works out and appreciate the meaning of Marc's post to the hunting community and the realization that this could happen to anyone posting pic's online. If I was Marc I would track this individual down and straighten it out (face to face) immediately without further due course.

huntwriter
02-09-2009, 06:47 AM
This is a clear case of copyright theft and there are ways and laws to hold the guy accountable.

On an interesting side note. I am surprised how some members here seem to get very upset over this. Yet when we discussed this very topic a few months ago the opinion was if it is on the web it is free for the taking and the writer, photographer or whoever, has no right to complain about copyright theft. How quickly opinions change when the shoe is on the other foot.

BiG Boar
02-09-2009, 10:14 AM
I guess I just dont see the big deal. He is looking for land to hunt ducks and geese on and has a picture of some dead geese with a dog in the picture, whats the big deal? Other than finding a picture on the internet and asking for permission to any random farmers, is he doing something illegal. I mean is it even a law yet in canada? Did huntwriter ever actually get a law? Is marc really offended by all this? However it is quite funny that you called him on it. That I do appriciate.

huntwriter
02-09-2009, 10:58 AM
HorseSh**t

If you say so. :wink:

3kills
02-09-2009, 11:16 AM
i think by the title of the thread marc is offended by it

Gilmore
02-09-2009, 11:25 AM
I guess I just dont see the big deal. He is looking for land to hunt ducks and geese on and has a picture of some dead geese with a dog in the picture, whats the big deal? Other than finding a picture on the internet and asking for permission to any random farmers, is he doing something illegal. I mean is it even a law yet in canada? Did huntwriter ever actually get a law? Is marc really offended by all this? However it is quite funny that you called him on it. That I do appriciate.

http://www.huntingbc.ca/forum/showpost.php?p=406204&postcount=39

Big Bore if you go to this link you'll see that yes Marc is pretty pissed and he brings up some pretty valid reasons.

Angel
02-09-2009, 11:28 AM
What a crappy situation. I feel for Marc, its his pic and his dog not fair for someone to try and profit by it. But i guess thats the internet.... good or bad this situation sucks.

jerad
02-09-2009, 12:17 PM
the internet is for porn... DO IT ELK! lol

nasty behavior that

BIGHUNTERFISH
02-09-2009, 12:31 PM
I guess I just dont see the big deal. He is looking for land to hunt ducks and geese on and has a picture of some dead geese with a dog in the picture, whats the big deal? Other than finding a picture on the internet and asking for permission to any random farmers, is he doing something illegal. I mean is it even a law yet in canada? Did huntwriter ever actually get a law? Is marc really offended by all this? However it is quite funny that you called him on it. That I do appriciate.

I really cant see the big problem with this either.I would take it as a compliment if someone used a picture of my dog with some geese in it,and gave me credit for being a good hunter.The guy knew all the seasons and laws and offered the owner some water fowl in compensation,sounds to me like he might actually be promoting B.C hunting.He probably thought it was harmless when he used the pictures and Marc has punished him enough by going public with this instead of dealing with the guy one on one,life is to short to worry about small stuff like this,if the guy would have used a picture of your wife in a bikini to promote a wet t shirt contest then I would have an issue,but a dog with some geese ,give me a break.lol :eek:

The Dawg
02-09-2009, 02:37 PM
I think the main reason Marc was pissed about it, was that this guy claimed to be a friend of his. Marc does not know him at all, yet this guy claims to know him and hunt along side him.

I would be pretty ticked too if my dog, reputation and 'intellectual property- HBC site' was used for someone elses' gain without permission.

BiG Boar
02-09-2009, 02:51 PM
life is to short to worry about small stuff like this,if the guy would have used a picture of your wife in a bikini to promote a wet t shirt contest then I would have an issue,but a dog with some geese ,give me a break.lol :eek:

LoL. Very True. Its not like Marcs face is even in the picture! Now if it was gatehouse in a tutu, and he was offering gay goose hunting, then I would be offended.

3kills
02-09-2009, 03:49 PM
ya but what other pics has this guy taken off here and claimed as his???

happygilmore
02-09-2009, 04:12 PM
Who here has not stolen a pic? look at a majority of the pics guys use for their profiles!
Claiming you know marc that's another story.
Guys are free to write the guy an email if they feel that strongly about it. Marc has done nothing wrong, the guy opened himself up by posting his email!

Ddog
02-09-2009, 04:39 PM
I agree happyg on the "stealing" of a photo for their avatar. however those pictures are not for personal gain. To blatantly steal for the purpose of self gain is wrong, no matter how you put it.
i emailed the guy on my behalf, for me, and posted his response to show that it was a stolen picture and that the guy is a liar and in my books(IMO) to lie is just as wrong as as stealing or poaching or anything like that.
as far as i am concerned whatever the guy gets he deserves.

huntwriter
02-09-2009, 05:54 PM
Who here has not stolen a pic?

So what you're saying is because others do it too it is okay.:roll:

First, taking a picture, or anything for that matter, that it not yours is theft any which way one looks at it. “If it is not yours then don’t touch it without asking first” is a lesson I learned at a very early age.

Second, the guy stole the picture and then claimed it as his. He lied, and that in my book is as bad as stealing. I have fired people on the spot for that.

Third, The picture was published in Marc’s neighborhood and many recognize his dog. This could bring Marc in disrepute with landowners in his area if the guy turns out to be a slob hunter.

I really do not understand why some people cannot understand that such behavior is just plain wrong and needs to be addressed rather then make jokes about it or disparage the matter as a harmless and common prank.:wink:

3kills
02-09-2009, 07:03 PM
Who here has not stolen a pic? look at a majority of the pics guys use for their profiles!
Claiming you know marc that's another story.
Guys are free to write the guy an email if they feel that strongly about it. Marc has done nothing wrong, the guy opened himself up by posting his email!

hate to tell ya but i havent stolen a pic from here..my avatar pics are always my own pics..but thats besides my point my point was that the guy is obviously takin pics and usin them as his own or claimin he knows the guy and to be that is really wrong...

jerad
02-09-2009, 07:50 PM
hate to tell ya but i havent stolen a pic from here..my avatar pics are always my own pics..but thats besides my point my point was that the guy is obviously takin pics and usin them as his own or claimin he knows the guy and to be that is really wrong...


if a con man puts your name on a passport aplication or a second name on a morgatge youd be pissed!

by taking hte pic he stole his name and reputation

3kills
02-10-2009, 01:30 AM
if a con man puts your name on a passport aplication or a second name on a morgatge youd be pissed!

by taking hte pic he stole his name and reputation

i think we are on the same side here...

Marc
02-10-2009, 06:30 AM
I'm sure we'll cross paths sooner or later if he's hunting waterfowl in my area. There is only so much public land to hunt on. I've got a pretty good idea of where he hunts and what he looks like so it's just a matter of time before I confront him on the subject.

I ask that that no one bugs him anymore as I'm sure he's gotten the point by now and I'll deal with him when I see him.

For those of you that don't see it as such a big deal that he took one of my pictures. Well if he just posted it up on facebook to show his friends is totally different then posting it in an ad trying to secure hunting locations with my reputation and the reputation of the website. I'm not saying he would but if he did break the law, shot livestock, left a gate open, or what ever you don't think that it would give me or the site a black eye if I walked up to this guys land and tried to gain access with my dog?

Were not talking about deer hunting where you can go pretty much anywhere. There is only a select few areas that hold any waterfowl on the Island.

Anyways I think this thread has pretty much taken it's course and the people involved know how I feel about it and we'll leave it at that.

Elkhound
02-10-2009, 11:31 AM
Anyways I think this thread has pretty much taken it's course and the people involved know how I feel about it and we'll leave it at that.


Ok.....I will close it then.