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Bow Walker
07-06-2007, 04:20 PM
Any Hoyt shooters out there? Wondering how to check the cam timing and keep the cam timing?

Here's an article that should help a bunch.







































Hybrid Cam Sync & Timing
By Mike Javi.... Cooper



The timing system on the hybrid cams is somewhat different from other systems.

The cams need to be in synchronization and in draw stop timing; these are two entirely different issues but interconnected. It is possible to have the cams in sync, but not in time and visa versa.

The string is for all practical purposes, just along for the ride, the buss cable (yoke) controls the bow, and it is used to set the axle to axle (limb) preload and takes most of the weight of the limb deflection at full draw. The control cable (slave) ties the two cams together so that they rotate at the required speeds.

The reference marks or holes (depending on the cam) are there to provide a visual reference to cam synchronization not draw stop timing. I find that tiller is a more precise indicator of cam sync; if the limbs are bottomed out the tiller will reflect the position of the cams better than the reference holes (marks).

To adjust the cams, I back the string off until I’m sure it isn’t affecting the axle to axle (usually ten twists will do) then adjust the buss cable to bring the axle to axle measurement to a ¼” longer than the specifications for that particular cam/limb combination (see Hoyt tune charts). The control cable should be used to sync the rotation of the cams while doing this. If the cams are in sync at this point the reference holes will be equidistance from their respective cables and the tiller will be even (limbs bottomed out).

Now is the time to adjust the draw stop timing, using a draw board or similar device (you can draw the bow and have someone else look at the cams) when the bottom cam’s draw stop is just touching the buss cable, the control cable should lay flat in the groove of the top cam. If the cam is under rotated you can put a twist in the buss or untwist the control, I determine which I do by the draw weight and draw length of the bow. Shortening the buss cable will lengthen the draw and increase the draw weight. Shortening the control cable will decrease the draw length and decrease the draw weight.

At this point, I measure the draw length (using AMO standards); it should be long and the draw weight should be higher than spec for the bow. I will then twist the string to bring the draw length to spec; this should also bring the draw weight and axle to axle into spec.

I double check everything and tweak a half twist here or there to fine tune it.

Finally I use the hybrid cam creep tuning method to set the bow to my shooting style.

If you follow this method you will have a very solid wall and the bow will be practically vibration free.

A note: the regular cam & ½ should be tuned in the “D” draw length slot for best performance. You can then set the module to your required DL and tweak the DL using the string.
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Javi....

shoot to kill
07-06-2007, 04:32 PM
jessbennett shoots for hoyt try pm'ing him

Eagle1
07-09-2007, 10:17 PM
" CAM TIMING" Whats cam timing, I thought all 1 1/2 and single cams didn't need any timing thats what all the manufactures say " cams never go out of time" " no cam timing needed "
A couple of years ago Hoyt sent me some pics and an explination on how to time Hoyt 1 1/2's.
Any bow ever built needs cam timing in one way or another, cables stretch at different rates and different lenghts and all wheels need to be in sync or one cams need to roll over at a certain point to get the best speeds.

Dirty
07-09-2007, 10:23 PM
Isn't there timing marks on the cams if you know where to look?

Bow Walker
07-10-2007, 09:55 AM
Isn't there timing marks on the cams if you know where to look?
Most manufacturers have some sort of indication where the proper timing is, or should be - it's what to do if you're not on the mark that counts.

jessbennett
07-12-2007, 11:21 PM
some older cam .5 have two lines which the string should be between. lines are on top and bottom cams. newer cam.5 have a hole in cams and string should be over these holes......


clear as mud???8)