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BCWF
09-11-2015, 09:02 PM
CONVICTION - $25,000 in fines and orders

A male from Richmond BC was recently convicted of several offences under the BC Wildlife Act resulting in $25,000 in fines/orders and an 8 year hunting suspension.

In October 2014, Chilliwack CO's stopped a vehicle on highway 1 near Hope B.C.


Upon inspection, CO's found 25 quarters of deer and a moose in the vehicle.

The suspect was charged for several Wildlife Act offences including exceeding the bag limit of wildlife. Xin Qi was fined $6000.00 and ordered to pay $19,000 to the Habitat Conservation Trust Foundation.

The deer and moose were forfeited to the Crown.

Poaching and other environmental offences can be reported 24/7 to the COS hotline 1-877-952-7277 (RAPP).

Whonnock Boy
09-11-2015, 09:32 PM
Sadly, I believe this goes on all to often without being detected. Mark one off for the good guys.

Surrey Boy
09-11-2015, 09:32 PM
Glad this fellow was convicted in court.

odie1830
09-11-2015, 09:53 PM
8 year hunting ban? How about a lifetime hunting ban!.

.330 Dakota
09-11-2015, 09:56 PM
I agree with the hunting ban,, but how effective is it,,,kinda like asking the bikers to license their handguns

Steeleco
09-11-2015, 10:11 PM
He isn't a hunter, so why ban him from something is wasn't doing. Take his truck and twice that amount of money and maybe then his buddies will pay attention. Unless he's got a Canadian passport, free ticket home is only fair.

25 quarters? That just means someone else has the rest.

Weatherby Fan
09-11-2015, 10:21 PM
He isn't a hunter, so why ban him from something is wasn't doing. Take his truck and twice that amount of money and maybe then his buddies will pay attention. Unless he's got a Canadian passport, free ticket home is only fair.

25 quarters? That just means someone else has the rest.

I like the way you think,

Ship the bugger home ASAP, and ban him from this Country.

Huntfarm2
09-11-2015, 10:40 PM
Deportation !!

itsy bitsy xj
09-11-2015, 10:41 PM
Next he'll get caught poaching without a license and claim hes just there watching his buddies

SPEYMAN
09-11-2015, 11:39 PM
Doubt very much if he obtained that many animals by him self. Suggest that there is a group doing the killing, and are filling orders from the lower mainland.

I think someone used the RAPP line. Good for them.

BgBlkDg
09-12-2015, 12:29 AM
Ah, the *benefits* of *diversity* in action, thankyou, P. Trudeau, Mulroney, etc.

1. If, a naturalized citizen, mandatory denaturalization

2. Then, forfeiture of ALL his property in Canada, to the Crown.

3.Then, as if he is a *landed immigrant* or *permanent resident*, permanent deportation and ban on any re-entry to Canada.

4. DNA typing and entry into a system used to check all entries, so, if caught here after this he could and should be hanged.

5. Ban ALL immigration from where he orginated.

6. Gaol time for native-born Canadians who poach like this. A five year minimum, NO exceptions.

A ten-fold increase in funding for our COs and F&W agency.

lip_ripper00
09-12-2015, 12:34 AM
Thought you where going hunting......

lip_ripper00
09-12-2015, 12:37 AM
And we would get a rest for a while

Big Lew
09-12-2015, 02:13 AM
Doubt very much if he obtained that many animals by him self. Suggest that there is a group doing the killing, and are filling orders from the lower mainland.

I think someone used the RAPP line. Good for them.

I agree with you....many years ago my wife, little kids, and I witnessed a poaching
setup at the top of the waterfall on Lost Creek east of Stave Lake.
With the information I provided, and the involvement of the COs and RCMP, it was
discovered that a ring of poachers were killing bucks, does, and fawns with crossbows
and pit lamps. They were selling the meat to Richmond restaurants and stores, so
the whole setup involved the 3 killers and numerous retail outlets.

Ride Red
09-12-2015, 06:22 AM
He isn't a hunter, so why ban him from something is wasn't doing. Take his truck and twice that amount of money and maybe then his buddies will pay attention. Unless he's got a Canadian passport, free ticket home is only fair.

25 quarters? That just means someone else has the rest.

Huge fines, forfeitures, lifetime bans, automatic jail time and once out of jail, they can start their rehabilitation process by working on a BCWF restoration project. If they aren't a canadian citizen yet, instant deportation without any elegibility to come back to this great country. Our laws are a complete joke and need to be firmed up. His country would have either shot or jailed him for life. We are too easy on all these pricks. Rant over.

Ride Red
09-12-2015, 06:25 AM
Ah, the *benefits* of *diversity* in action, thankyou, P. Trudeau, Mulroney, etc.

1. If, a naturalized citizen, mandatory denaturalization

2. Then, forfeiture of ALL his property in Canada, to the Crown.

3.Then, as if he is a *landed immigrant* or *permanent resident*, permanent deportation and ban on any re-entry to Canada.

4. DNA typing and entry into a system used to check all entries, so, if caught here after this he could and should be hanged.

5. Ban ALL immigration from where he orginated.

6. Gaol time for native-born Canadians who poach like this. A five year minimum, NO exceptions.

A ten-fold increase in funding for our COs and F&W agency.

I didn't even make it to your post before I was pissed off, so I had to rant on my own. You are correct with your post.

BgBlkDg
09-12-2015, 06:32 AM
Yup, I am SO POed with this kind of BS and I truly hate poachers, the well educated, native-born *white* Canadians, more than any others as WE know better.

How about a simple burning at a stake..... ;) ?

longwalk
09-12-2015, 06:49 AM
Spoke with the CO last year who was in on it. Said they stopped the guy for a spot check because he was in full camo in his vehicle.

.330 Dakota
09-12-2015, 07:20 AM
Thought you where going hunting......

LMAO...Thanks for making my day

tigrr
09-12-2015, 07:26 AM
The sad part is the other 5 trucks full made it past without being stopped. Fish, deer, moose, bears, you name it.

Ozone
09-12-2015, 08:02 AM
he could and should be hanged.


This gets my vote

ACB
09-12-2015, 08:51 AM
Spoke with the CO last year who was in on it. Said they stopped the guy for a spot check because he was in full camo in his vehicle.
Probably Sitka gear and stuck out like a sore thumb.

olympia
09-12-2015, 12:14 PM
I don't agree with instant deportation, we might as well hold him for a bit and get a while bunch of restoration work out of him and when he is run too haggard to continue...then deport. Make him plant trees and work at fish hatcheries. If he refuses then throw in him jail and send him to a jail in Manitoba or northern Saskatchewan. He would have lots of "friends" there.

Glenny
09-12-2015, 12:32 PM
I'm surprised he actually got convicted.

scotty30-06
09-12-2015, 01:07 PM
A bullet is cheaper then a plane ticket but make sure he pays fines first lol

NorBC
09-12-2015, 03:22 PM
A terrible crime for sure. Some of the responses on here are just ******ed though. Starting to sound as ridiculous as the antis gentleman...

IslandBC
09-13-2015, 08:12 AM
25,000$ is a decent fine. 8 year band from hunting isn't enough. Life time band would make sense for that degree of poaching... You know he will be poaching in those 8 years. Throw in some good hard behind bars jail time and he will get the point. Deportation isn't a bad idea either . Bullet to the head ... That's a bit rash

M.Dean
09-13-2015, 11:34 AM
25 hind quarters? So,if it's 2 from the same animal, that's 12 and a half animals killed for sure. Now, there still missing the rest of the meat from these dead animals, and just a guess here, but how much you wanna bet a lot of folks that like Chinese food ate this meat? Sweet and sour pork boneless, chicken fried rice, dried pork spare rib's, and the list go's on and on! This guy should be made to tell where the wild game meat went, by what ever means it takes to get him to talk, and I don't mean offer him money to spill his guts! Fining this piece of sh** does literately nothing in the way of sending a clear message to the other scum that are involved in selling our wildlife to make a profit! Putting this guys ass in prison, doing hard time would! He should be given a sentence of at least 10 bloody years! Then send his now "Larger, sorer Ass" back to Tiinemen square, or Hong Hong, or where he crawled out of the gutters from before he lied to get into this Country of ours !!!! That way, when the next so called "New Canadian" is offered the job of going out and shooting our wildlife to sell, he thinks about olde "Hop Sing" doing his ten God Dam years in the hole!!! I'm dam happy they caught this low life bag of Sh**, but I'd bet it's only the tip of a very big Ice burg!!!

IslandBC
09-13-2015, 11:58 AM
My buddy owns property in Princeton hand he says he personally witnessed a van of vietmanese guys driving around in a van poaching bears. They would cut off the paws and take the gull bladder and dumped the carcass on the side of the road. They were shot at.

Whonnock Boy
09-13-2015, 11:58 AM
The fine is nothing. Went down to Richmond for a wedding last weekend. 3 cars pulled out of the underground parking, and the gentlemen I was speaking with says, "there goes at least a million dollars worth of wheels". The poacher probably spoke with one of his rich friends and had it paid with the guys pocket change. 8 years??? Something as brutal as this should be a lifetime ban. He has zero respect for the laws, wildlife, or his fellow Canadians.

recoil
09-13-2015, 12:11 PM
I agree, the property taxes on his house were probably more last year than the fine. 90-120 days in jail would have been a better option. No doubt here is out there again right now, keep an eye for this clown.

mattmckay
09-13-2015, 07:23 PM
M.Dean, I think your math is off. It says quarters, not hind quarters. Catching this poacher is a good start.

tikkatac
09-13-2015, 07:45 PM
$25k is probably what he made on his last poaching trip so that's not going to change his mind. As far as no hunting license..WTF I'm pretty sure the last thing on that guys mind is buying deer tags before heading out to fill his pickup with animal parts...

Rest assured He'll be out again. Like so many other things, Where there is demand there will always be those willing to take the risk for easy money.

I've got some ideas of justice Involving some Rope, a tree and a hungry bear....

adriaticum
09-13-2015, 08:22 PM
Doubt very much if he obtained that many animals by him self. Suggest that there is a group doing the killing, and are filling orders from the lower mainland.

I think someone used the RAPP line. Good for them.

Exactly
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northernbc
09-18-2015, 09:07 PM
he is not a Canadian at all

Daybreak
09-18-2015, 09:29 PM
I was driving west on the Connector the other day and there was a large reefer trailer with two pickups backed up to it on the East bound side at the Sunset Main underpass. By the time I realized it was odd it was too late to exit and there wasn't a U-turn route for many miles. I'm still wondering what that was all about...unless someone was getting grocery supplies for Hatheume Lodge? I would have liked to have done a nice slow drive by to see what was going on.

Asco
09-18-2015, 10:05 PM
This whole business of poaching and selling the meat to ethnic restaurants makes me sick. I follow all these regulations, buy gear and tags and these guys just kill whatever they see.

The penalties are insufficient. Total forfeiture of vehicles and gear and jail time. AND MORE COs.

Some on here act like the COs are the enemy sent to harass us. I like getting checked b/c it means SOME sort of enforcement is going on and somebody might actually get stopped from breaking the law.

300H&H
09-19-2015, 09:47 AM
Sadly, I believe this goes on all to often without being detected. Mark one off for the good guys.

X2

I just have to wonder if the meat was headed to a restaurant.

sapper
09-19-2015, 10:13 AM
I think cases like this need stronger penalties. It is these cases that put at risk the continuance of hunting in Canada for the rest of us who are following the rules and who are committed to conservation and the continuance of hunting in Canada. Poachers impact wildlife populations and give ethical hunters a bad name.
Seizure of any firearms and vehicles involved should have also taken place IMO. :mad:

hntcrazy
09-19-2015, 10:25 AM
how about life ban hunting and vehicle loss and any firearms and hunting equipment.
The fine is a short term deterrent . He is probably out poaching right now...............................

sapper
09-19-2015, 10:31 AM
... Total forfeiture of vehicles and gear and jail time. AND MORE COs.

Some on here act like the COs are the enemy sent to harass us. I like getting checked b/c it means SOME sort of enforcement is going on and somebody might actually get stopped from breaking the law.

Exactly!!! X2

fuzzybiscuit
09-19-2015, 10:46 AM
Easy case for the authorities to prosecute and win...but in the end it really means nothing and probably won't stop the individual from doing it again.

FortBoy
09-24-2015, 11:02 PM
Embarrassing that all this guy walks away with is 25k fine. Who ever is sentencing these crooks should be ashamed

Xenomorph
09-30-2015, 02:23 PM
Whom can we lobby to increase the number of COs. Especially in areas like that, close to mountains etc. I agree with all of the above, 25k is a joke, no mandatory time is a joke, no deportation is a joke ...there is no real deterrent into this.

I still remember a video I saw about this Hungarian kid in Toronto, made 2mil+ scamming people, the money was "lost in gaming and poker" ...he got 2years house arrest. On his way out of the court he gave the media thumbs up and said "I love Canada!"

Not trying to derail, but for the honest fellow out there, all these can be a case and point why authorities are not really doing their job right and sufficiently so.

Surrey Boy
09-30-2015, 03:50 PM
Until the Crown administrates the law equally to all people, I don't support its further enforcement. It's like filling the sink without plugging the drain.

Wolfman
10-02-2015, 11:39 AM
We need more Cos

honeyman76
10-02-2015, 01:29 PM
In this case, which is extreme, take his vehicle and forfeit it to the Crown, fine him and do a ban for life on owning firearms, seize his PAL and if he had a hunting license, ban him for life from ever hunting again. Then, post the results all over the internet and media. That would surely deter a few poachers.

Singleshotneeded
10-02-2015, 02:07 PM
The Vietcong got off way too light! 25 hind quarters means 13 deer, I'd go with a $5000 fine per deer, which is $65,000. Moose are less common than deer, so I'd fine him $10,000 for the moose. $25,000 to the Habitat Conservation Fund then makes for a nice round $100,000 in penalties. The truck would also be seized and donated for use in doing habitat improvement, etc... Since anyone coming to another country and engaging in illegal activities on such a grand scale indicates a vast disrespect for the country that was kind enough to let him in, I'd have to agree with others and deport him in 30 days. He has a month to sell his stuff before he gets packed on a plane.

Singleshotneeded
10-02-2015, 02:12 PM
Until the Crown administrates the law equally to all people, I don't support its further enforcement. It's like filling the sink without plugging the drain.

That's another subject, one law for every Canadian full stop. Indians can keep their reserve villages, but all crown lands given to them would revert back to the crown, no more tax exemptions or free education, they'd be under the same hunting regulations as every other Canadian of any ethnic origin, and no more handouts. One set of rules, one set of laws, and one set of penalties for every Canadian.

CoreShackJack
10-12-2015, 09:50 PM
I agree SingleShotNeeded but once you giveth, it's damn hard to taketh away......ESPECIALLY if we end up with a government on the more socialist end of the political spectrum. I support the same rights for every Canadian, and often wonder why I am a second-class Canadian citizen compared to the Native Canadians...because I was born with white skin?!

Also; makes me wonder whos placing orders for all this deer in Vancouver. Maybe it really will be mystery meat next time I go to an Asian Restaurant.

Sofa King
10-12-2015, 10:01 PM
Until the Crown administrates the law equally to all people, I don't support its further enforcement. It's like filling the sink without plugging the drain.

this X1000.

okas
10-18-2015, 10:13 AM
I'm surprised he actually got convicted.

yes i as well ... he must have made a mistake and spoken English

RogerRamjet
11-07-2015, 06:57 PM
Is there a LEH draw on poachers this year?

tigrr
11-07-2015, 09:44 PM
Supply and demand. Chinese, native you choose. If the demand wasn't there they wouldn't be poaching fish and animals.
RRAP Is very helpful for the CO's. See something strange/suspicious happening call them.

limit time
11-07-2015, 10:34 PM
8 year hunting ban? How about a lifetime hunting ban!.
Poacher is a poacher...why would he stop without a licence ?

Deer_Slayer
11-07-2015, 10:46 PM
Hate to say it but I will. Our wildlife will be doomed with the onslaught of Chinese hunters. These guys have no respect for our conservation laws and the fines to them are laughable. This is just one hunter. I can imagine the majority of them do the same. I knew when I saw the story in the Province last year about huge rise in hunting licenses being sold it was due to Chinese buying licenses. Go in any gun shop and they are buying crates of guns and ammo. I won't apologize for saying this. These guys cannot even speak English so how do they read the regs ?

Deer_Slayer
11-07-2015, 10:47 PM
agree 100%. Get the F out!

Sangstercraft
11-16-2015, 08:13 PM
Reliable Guns in Hongcouver is full of chinese buying guns. It's hard to do anything about it.. but they have a chinese speaking staff member there who helps the buyers out a lot. I boycott that store.

Sangstercraft
11-16-2015, 08:14 PM
Hey - any time anyone sees a Chinese guy hunting in the woods, get the plate and call RAPP. At least he'll get inspected..

SPEYMAN
11-16-2015, 09:43 PM
There are many people of different backgrounds that have lived in this country for longer than others. Strongly suggest this thread be closed and the previous, bigoted, prejudiced posts be removed.